[narses]

1 Thess. 4:17 - we shall be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so we shall always be with the Lord.

Rev. 12:1 - we see Mary, the “woman,” clothed with the sun. While in Rev. 6:9 we only see the souls of the martyrs in heaven, in Rev. 12:1 we see Mary, both body and soul.

2 Thess. 2:15 - Paul instructs us to hold fast to oral (not just written) tradition. Apostolic tradition says Mary was assumed into heaven. While claiming the bones of the saints was a common practice during these times (and would have been especially important to obtain Mary’s bones as she was the Mother of God), Mary’s bones were never claimed. This is because they were not available. Mary was taken up body and soul into heaven.

[bkaycee]

2 Thess. 2:15 - Paul instructs us to hold fast to oral (not just written) tradition. Apostolic tradition says Mary was assumed into heaven. While claiming the bones of the saints was a common practice during these times (and would have been especially important to obtain Mary’s bones as she was the Mother of God), Mary’s bones were never claimed. This is because they were not available. Mary was taken up body and soul into heaven.

Sorry, the assumption was only heard in the church around the 4th century, via pagan sources and certainly NOT apostolic.

Do we have the bones of all the Apostles? Stephen who was martyred, Mary Magdelene, John the Baptist, The Lords Brother James or where they also assumed?

Could it be that Mary's importance to the church only grew 300 to 400 years after her death, coinciding with the pagan godess worship influence?

It is strange that we dont have all the bones of the Most prominent players in the NT. Why would not having the bones of Mary mean she was assumed? Mary, by ANY standards was not that prominent a figure in the NT Scripture.

[metmom]

You can’t prove a negative. It’s like that whole episode of Bush being at some army base.

People claim he wasn’t there and their proof is that they didn’t see him.

Likewise with Mary’s bones.

If Catholics even COULD produce a skeleton, that would STILL not *prove* that the bones were even really Mary’s. They could have been any female’s.

Not being able to produce a skeleton does NOT prove that she was assumed because there are too many other valid reasons of why someone wouldn’t have them; like nobody recalled where she was buried or they crumbled into dust by now.

[Iscool]

Apostolic tradition says Mary was assumed into heaven.

Let's call it what it is...It's not Apostolic tradition...It's Catholic religion fabrication...

And since the idea didn't drop to the ground til hundreds of years after Mary was dead, we know it didn't originate from any of the Apostles or Disciples...