[SnakeDoctor]

Eh. Catholics seem to quote Luther and Calvin to Protestants as if we simply replaced the Catholic Pope with Luther and Calvin. Luther and Calvin may have agreed with the Catholic Church about Mary’s perpetual virginity. I still don’t.

SnakeDoc

[HossB86]

How true.

Just because someone says it (popes included) doesn’t make it so.

What does Scripture say?

In Luke 1:46-47, Mary refers to “God my Saviour.” Odd she would say that were she truly born sinless herself.

Hoss

[Vegasrugrat]

Eh. Catholics seem to quote Luther and Calvin to Protestants as if we simply replaced the Catholic Pope with Luther and Calvin. Luther and Calvin may have agreed with the Catholic Church about Mary’s perpetual virginity. I still don’t.

Agreed. Luther and Calvin like the Pope are humans and are known to error, which is precisely why we hold the Bible as truth.

[marshmallow]

Catholics seem to quote Luther and Calvin to Protestants as if we simply replaced the Catholic Pope with Luther and Calvin. Luther and Calvin may have agreed with the Catholic Church about Mary’s perpetual virginity. I still don’t.

I've heard the phrase "more Catholic than the Pope".

Would this be an example of "more Protestant than Luther"?

[Jim Noble]

Luther and Calvin may have agreed with the Catholic Church about Mary’s perpetual virginity. I still don’t.

Would it be fair to say then, that when making an act of submission regarding doubtful propositions, the one to whom you submit is...you?