“But a person would have to pray to Mary if they are asking her something because she is not physically here.”
No they don’t. All they have to do is say, “Mary, Mother of God, pray for us.” or “Saint whomever, Pray for us”.
“However we do not entrust the world to one or ask protection and guidance from someone who in turn is going to ask God!”
Never said we do or should, simply that we *can* ask them to pray for us in addition to our own prayers to God.
“If this is not praying to Mary then one is not praying to the Father either in the Rosary.”
The Rosary includes the Our Father. We do not ask anything of Mary other than to simply hear our prayers and to pray for us to God. That’s it.
“God says to ask Him— not Mary.”
He commands that we are to pray FOR one another. Mary is commanded to pray FOR us, as we are for one another. It’s not an either/or question, but both.
“Only God can answer ones prayer. So it becomes useless to pray to a saint, any saint no matter how great they may be.”
Again we are not PRAYING TO the saint. We are simply asking them to pray for us as we would our friend down the street. You seem hung up on the fact that she is not here in the flesh presently. I don’t understand this at all. You believe that the Holy Spirit is inside of you, helping you to pray, and that Christ is right there beside you.
I agree, only God can answer our prayers, but we are all called to pray for us, and we can ASK each other to do so at any time.
I’m glad to see you’ll willingly dig dig dig, but cannot understand a simple statement also in the catechism.
The catechism says that we can ask any of the Saints to pray for us to God.
Oh really...prove it in scripture.
in addition to our own prayers
Would appear your prayers are good enough.
The Rosary includes the Our Father.
Once God is mentioned, everywhere else is praying to Mary in the Rosary...the focus is on her.
You seem hung up on the fact that she is not here in the flesh presently.
Not at all hung up..it's a fact she is not alive here on earth. She is safely with the Lord.
I don’t understand this at all. You believe that the Holy Spirit is inside of you, helping you to pray, and that Christ is right there beside you.
You are right...you do not understand nor can you as long as you believe and practice idolatry and continue to dishonor Christ by praying to Mary. You are blinded by your practices which Jesus clearly said not to do...and which the scripture says if your do these you will become like the idols you worship...blind and cannot hear...the truth.
The catechism says that we can ask any of the Saints to pray for us to God.
Well of course it does...where did you get the Catechism from? Romes teachings and their bondage of it's members to things taught by men... which oppose the clear teachings of what God instructed...and keep it's members blind to the truth..just as they did in the middle ages.