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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Neither has any Pope ever declared Mary a co-redeemer..."

No pope has. JPII may have stated his personal opinion, but the office of the pope has not declared. For one who claims to know all things Catholic you never miss an opportunity to parade your ignorance.

Further, "co-redeemer" doesn't mean what you so fallaciously claim it does. Mary did indeed participate in the Redemption of mankind through her willing participation in the birth and life of Jesus. That is an irrefutable stare decisis fact and not open for debate. No amount of anti-Catholic hysteria, chest thumping, badgering, threatening, warnings, or word games is going to change that or the Catholic belief in that. Get over it or get used to it. (note: stare decisis is a legal common term and not in need of translation).

"Regardless, it's very bad form to make it appear that whole paragraphs are your own writing when someone else actually wrote them."

I clearly introduced that as the Church's position. I didn't claim to author it. I am not responsible for the conclusions you jump to.

" Regardless, it's against the rules of the FR FR to call someone "a liar.""

I didn't call you one, I merely stated the conditions that would confirm you as one. You have the ability to prevent that, if you choose or assume the mantle by your own actions. A liar is as a liar does.

"Are two people posting under the name "Natural Law?"

Why don't you ask the mod, you seem to have privy to a lot of information not available to the average garden variety Freeper. Better yet, why don't you just read the minds of the committee you perceive to be Natural Law.

1,456 posted on 12/21/2010 10:34:59 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
You said "no pope declared..." and I showed you where two popes "had declared."

Your time might be better spent correcting them than me.

I clearly introduced that as the Church's position.

No, you didn't You did not use quotation marks. Anyone reading that would be led to believe those words were yours.

Deception seldom ends well.

A liar is as a liar does.

So very true. And a liar, as we all know, posts other people's writings as their own and fails to use quotation marks to note that fact.

Why don't you ask the mod, you seem to have privy to a lot of information not available to the average garden variety Freeper.

The only "information" I'm "privy to" are the rules found on the Religion Moderator's homepage. Perhaps you're unfamiliar with them. Why not spend some time reading them and trying to abide by them? They are actually very workable, even-handed rules that benefit us as Christians and as debaters.

Better yet, why don't you just read the minds of the committee you perceive to be Natural Law

I don't have to read anyone's mind. I can read the posts and see a stark contrast between some of "Natural Law's" posts.

A lot of us can.

Lots.

And it's not pretty.

1,459 posted on 12/21/2010 10:46:14 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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