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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

It seems Scripture is once again more reliable than some science. >>

A 6000 year old earth only makes sense if you are a Biblical inerrantist—which is to say, wilfully and utterly ignorant of science and the laws of physics. It is also a clinging to protestantist religious bigotry because if the earth is NOT 6000 years old maybe them Cath-o-licks have the right idea after all (since they accept evolution, having learned their lesson from the Gallileo fiasco).

God does not lie. For the Bible to be literally true He would have had to create massive false evidence of a 13.8 billion year old universe, including falsely planted fossils of every variety and light from stars created in situ only a few hundred light years from our solar system so that they can arrive “just in time”.

God does not lie; he is, however, the original poet. And the Biblical image of creation is high, indeed the highest, poetry. But literally true? Only if Pi can equal precisely three (which the Bible claims).


23 posted on 12/15/2010 5:48:46 AM PST by Ghotier
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To: Ghotier

I didn’t know that about the Bible and Pi. Thanks. But, here is a possible explanation of the Pi discrepancy: http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/pibible.htm
So, now you can go ahead and believe again in the inherency of the Bible.


29 posted on 12/15/2010 6:03:35 AM PST by deltaromeo11 ("I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me." Jn18)
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To: Ghotier

Answer me this.

If the Bible is in error, then where does your salvation lay? Can’t have it both ways, either the Scripture is whole and not in error or it’s in error and not to be trusted.

As for your other quip, maybe you should learn a little more about the Bible before you bring that tired old attack in here. It’s been proven false and only those with an agenda to push continue to hold to it.

Here’s proof that you’re full of it. http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm


37 posted on 12/15/2010 6:10:06 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Ghotier
"God does not lie. For the Bible to be literally true He would have had to create massive false evidence of a 13.8 billion year old universe, including falsely planted fossils of every variety and light from stars created in situ only a few hundred light years from our solar system so that they can arrive “just in time”.

Correction: "God does not lie. For the fundie interpretation of the Bible to be literally true He would have had to create massive false evidence of a 13.8 billion year old universe, including falsely planted fossils of every variety and light from stars created in situ only a few hundred light years from our solar system so that they can arrive “just in time”.

48 posted on 12/15/2010 6:20:35 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: Ghotier

Most of what you say is based on fundamental ignorance. The Jews, who wrote the Bible, do not count time from the creation of the universe. They count it from the creation of the Neshama, the soul of human life, or the creation of the soul of Adam. On Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year, Jews blow the Shofar three times during the Musaf service, and proclaim, “Hayom Harat Olam - today is the birthday of the world.”

Nor does the Bible say that Pi is equal to 3. The text reads, “And he [Hiram] made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one rim to the other it was round all about, and...a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about....And it was an hand breadth thick....” — First Kings, chapter 7, verses 23 and 26

Using eighteen inches as one cubit, that gives an outer diameter of 180 inches and an outer radius of 90 inches. The bowl was a hand breadth thick, or 4 inches, so the inner radius is 86 inches and the inner circumference is 540 inches. The circumference formula is C = 2(pi)r, which gives us:

540 = 2(pi)(86)
540 = 172(pi)

Solving, we get pi = 540/172 = 135/43 = 3.1395348837, or about 3.14.

How close did the Jews need to be?


99 posted on 12/15/2010 7:10:45 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: Ghotier
For the Bible to be literally true

So when Christ says, "This IS my Body" you accept the bread as his flesh?

233 posted on 12/15/2010 10:48:06 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Ghotier
because if the earth is NOT 6000 years old maybe them Cath-o-licks have the right idea after all (since they accept evolution, having learned their lesson from the Gallileo fiasco).

Catholics are not required to believe evolutionary theory. There are many who don't. I know of several active FReepers who are young earth Creationists.

Try again.

293 posted on 12/15/2010 11:44:53 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Ghotier
God does not lie. For the Bible to be literally true He would have had to create massive false evidence of a 13.8 billion year old universe, including falsely planted fossils of every variety and light from stars created in situ only a few hundred light years from our solar system so that they can arrive “just in time”.

Actually, all He really had to do was create man who is proud and rebellious and they will find a way to reject what He has told them and believe what they like by misinterpreting the evidence before them.
294 posted on 12/16/2010 6:24:23 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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