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To: Matchett-PI

Again, Chapter and Verse or you’re spouting heresy.

Here’s a hint. Romans 8:19-21 shows that it was physical death and not just spiritual death that was unleashed at the fall. After all, only man has a soul to experience spiritual death, but all of creation is waiting to be transformed due to the current corruption.


103 posted on 12/15/2010 7:16:13 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: paladin1_dcs
Yes, that's one of the biblically illiterate / fundie interpretations of Scripture. :)

"...It doesn't take very long to realize that a thorough understanding of the Bible -- and this would actually apply to any complex work from any culture -- requires specialized knowledge, and a broad range of specialized knowledge in a variety of fields. Obviously the vast majority of believers spend their entire lives doing little more than reading the Bible in English (or whatever native tongue) and importing into its words whatever ideas they derive from their own experiences. This process is very often one of "decontextualizing" -- what I have here called "reading it like it was written yesterday and for you personally." ...

Let's anticipate and toss off the obvious objection: "Why did God make the Bible so hard to understand, then?" It isn't -- none of this keeps a person from grasping the message of the Bible to the extent required to be saved; where the line is to be drawn is upon those who gratuitously assume that such base knowledge allows them to be competent [interpreters] of the text, and make that assumption in absolute ignorance of their own lack of knowledge -- what I have elsewhere spoken of in terms of being "unskilled and unaware of it."

And is my observation to this effect justified? Well, ask yourself this question after considering what various fields of knowledge a complete and thorough (not to say sufficient for intelligent discourse, though few even reach that pinnacle, especially in the critical realm) study of the Bible requires: [snip]..."

147 posted on 12/15/2010 8:41:27 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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