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People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. or what Jesus said He who is without sin cast the first stone... [Restornu, poster of this thread]

By all means, Resty, let's REALLY pray for the victims & perps mentioned in this thread -- the many criminal culprits, the scandal jumpstarters, & if there's a few innocent among them falsely accused, them as well.

Here's, though, what I find interesting.

If any of you go to this thread posted today -- Diary of LDS apostle includes tales of bribing a Supreme Court justice...
...Here's the MAJOR difference between the corrupt (largely Christian) church leaders Resty has posted about --
--And the Mormon church leaders mentioned in the 1890s in the thread I've just linked to:

In that thread, it discusses how the highest Lds hierarchical church leaders were engaged in illegal polygamy, bribery of a Supreme Court justice, embezzlements, "chicanery," and cover-up of these crimes by its members of its top 15 leaders (what they call their "quorum").

So...do past or contemporary Mormons treat these men as scandalous corrupt leaders? Or are they almost "heroes" of their faith -- men who "stood up" to the govt. "imposing" upon "religious freedom"?

Answer? The Mormons tend to treat them as in the latter category!

You see Resty...when a Christian leader has been arrested w/enough evidence (& usually eventually convicted), do I rush in to defend them? (No)

How does that compare to Mormon criminals & frauds & the like? (What I've observed on these threads is how Mormon FREEPERS will suddenly become the perp's advocate!)

Historically, the Christian church has indeed been full of wheat & tares...& the tares have included:
* Inside heretics & errorists;
* Schism-kings;
* Scandal-mongers;
* Admin Abusers;
* People abusers;
* Violence-mongers, etc.

95-99% of those so accused (depending upon which era of history you're talking about) haven't been worth defending -- nor were most (or almost all) to be regarded as "heroes" of the faith.

Yet look at Lds "apostle" Abraham Cannon:

From the column posted @ above link: The diaries reveal how federal attorneys were routinely bribed through third parties. Church leaders spent considerable energies covering up the crime of an embezzler because that man — sympathetic to the church — was in a position to be a receiver of assets the church needed. In fact, Cannon records entries where the apostles were counseled to “keep secrets” from their enemies.... Cannon’s diary entry of Dec. 17, 1892, records that at the apostles’ meeting “… the brethren were told that our success in the Church suits was in a great measure due to the fact that we have a partner of Justice {Stephen J.} Field of the Supreme Court of the United States in our employ, who is to receive a percentage of the money if the suits go in our favor, and the property is returned to us.”...Justice Field was not the only person of influence tempted by the church.

So here's the challenge Resty: I repudiate the criminals mentioned in this source you posted.
Furthermore, I challenge you to do the same ... starting with Lds "apostle" Abraham Cannon. Do you repudiate Lds "apostle" Abraham Cannon for his bribery & other chicanery -- & his fellow "apostles" & First Presidents -- for what they did in the 1880s & 1890s?

By all means, take the time to investigate.
* You already know they were illegal polygamists.
* Cannon's diary admits they had a Supreme Court justice on the payroll.
* His diaries show fed attorneys were routinely bribed by third parties representing the Mormon hierarchically quorum.
(So really, what's left to investigate that Cannon has not already "confessed" via his own hand?)

Therefore, my challenge will not go away.

I will remind you of it over & over again until you respond in a manner that doesn't sluff it off.