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To: lastchance; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Quix
Is there no end to your calumny!!. You are repeating a scandal which fails to reveal very important facts. But you know this and persist in it. Why? Because of hatred and bigotry and evil intent. This in a Christian??? Here are the facts that you forget. I take that back you have not forgotten but the full truth does not serve your agenda so you leave it out.

Seriously, anyone trying to connect Hitler with the Catholic Church need only google "Hitler's Bible." Hitler replaced God with "The State" throughout the book. Like most socialists and all communists, he wanted to destroy Christianity.

Either Lenin or Stalin, I forget which, said "Religion is the opiate of the masses." The Soviet plan was for the religious grandmothers to die out and Church with them.

Let's stick to arguments with merit.

2,187 posted on 12/10/2010 12:45:14 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

Grizzled Bear, Thank you. If a non Catholic wants to argue that they do not believe in the Sacrifice of the Mass or other Catholic doctrines that is a legitmate argument. If a non Catholic wants to challenge the fact that Catholics believe in Purgatory that is a valid point. If a non Catholic takes issue with our belief in infused justification they can argue their point fairly and coherently. (I know I’ve seen it done before).

All of the above are Catholic doctrines which Reformed denominations disagree with and which they can support with appeal to Scripture and the reasoning of their founders. What is often forgotten that the Catholic Church appealing to Scripture and to Apostolic Tradition have reached different conclusions.

But to resort to libelous statements to support an argument is the refuge of scoundrels. You do not engage in that practice and I appreciate it.


2,199 posted on 12/10/2010 1:37:34 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
anyone trying to connect Hitler with the Catholic Church

He was born, baptized and raised RC. He never renounced his church and he spoke often about his Christian faith. And he's never been excommunicated, although you and I, as Protestants, and all those who have confidence in their salvation by Christ, have been excommunicated, according to the Council of Trent.

The uncomfortable fact is that Rome made a devil's pack with Hitler and both sides profited from it.

Don't fall for the Discovery Channel's view of history (owned by Disney, btw) that tried to palm off Hitler's religious leanings as New Age. Granted, Hitler infused National Socialism with all sorts of volkish symbolism, but at his core he was a papist who belonged to the church as long as that church did not rebuke him.

Which it didn't.

Read "Hitler's Pope." And try to ignore all the lies thrown at its Roman Catholic author who set out to defend the papacy during WWII and was so shocked by what he found he ended up condemning it.

2,227 posted on 12/10/2010 7:15:56 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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