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To: caww; metmom
That is exactly what I observed when looking into this matter of catholic images, idols and other "things" catholics seem to attach themselves to, in one form of worsahip or another, and reasons for that equally disturbing.

So that begs an answer, if what they are doing looks like and acts like and "feels" like worship as so many have shown...then what does thier worship of Christ look like and differ? I cannot see any difference.

The difference lies between the activities done to perform "veneration" (dulia) and "adulation" (latria). According to Catholic Dictionary "New Advent", "dulia" is

a theological term signifying the honour paid to the saints, while latria means worship given to God alone, and hyperdulia the veneration offered to the Blessed Virgin Mary....A further distinction is made between dulia in the absolute sense, the honour paid to persons, and dulia in the relative sense, the honour paid to inanimate objects, such as images and relics.
How often have we been told that Catholics don't worship the Saints and Mary, but rather they venerate them? Pay attention to how Cardinal Antonio Bacci, in his devotional material, clears away the confusion by equating "veneration" (dulia) with "worship", even mentioning the bowing and praying to statues of Mary or the Saints:
....The worship of the Saints is an act of veneration (dulia), not of adoration (latria), which can be given only to God. It is wrong to imagine, as many Protestants do, that by praying to and venerating the Saints we subtract something from the homage we owe to God. The veneration of the Saints and the adoration of God are entirely distinct activities. Moreover, the Saints are the faithful servants of God and intercede with Him on our behalf. By venerating and invoking them, we honour the Giver of all holiness. If anyone, on the other hand, were to disregard the worship of God in favour of devotion to the Saints, he would be making a serious mistake. A person who goes into a church and rushes over to a statue of the Blessed Virgin or of one of the Saints, without giving a thought to the living and real presence of Jesus in the Blessed Eucharist, is developing a false and sentimental piety.

2,078 posted on 12/09/2010 8:57:23 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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2,079 posted on 12/09/2010 9:01:43 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Alex Murphy
The difference lies between the activities done to perform "veneration" (dulia) and "adulation" (latria). ....According to Catholic Dictionary ".

Sorry, but since when does 'a dictionary' determine spiritual matters of worship? Pretty lame giving word titles to actions and behavior which are seen as exactly the same. But then I suspect this gives those who practice such an excuse and reason to do so. As so many things in the catholic shuch and expereinces within...give it a "title"...call it a "holy" tradition...have the Pope give his sign of approval and run with it.

Nope,...not buying the explanation as it holds no water to the scriptures. Which by the way not one is mentioned in your explanation. Rather the usual catholic literature and and a "dictionary" aid. And then some wonder why others in the faith cannot take these behaviors seriously.

2,081 posted on 12/09/2010 9:37:06 PM PST by caww
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To: Alex Murphy

Walk into any Catholic church, it’ll be named for Mary, have a giant idol of her outside and about 20 inside. somewhere on a wall out of the way will be a crucifix, that’s Jesus. So it’s pretty clear who comes first.


2,083 posted on 12/10/2010 12:51:25 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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