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To: daniel1212
We can't agree on the interpretation of Sacred Scripture, I suppose it's a given that we will not agree on what my Church has said makes up the canon of scripture and what your experts have said my Church has said. However, here are the lists:

Rome 382:

The list of the Old Testament begins: Genesis, one book; Exodus, one book:
Leviticus, one book; Numbers, one book; Deuteronomy, one book; Jesus Nave, one book; of Judges, one book;
Ruth, one book; of Kings, four books [First and Second Books of Kings, Third and Fourth Books of Kings];
Paralipomenon, two books; One Hundred and Fifty Psalms, one book; of Solomon, three books: Proverbs, one
book; Ecclesiastes, one book; Canticle of Canticles, one book; likewise, Wisdom, one book; Ecclesiasticus
(Sirach), one book; Likewise, the list of the Prophets: Isaiah, one book; Jeremias, one book; along with Cinoth,
that is, his Lamentations; Ezechiel, one book; Daniel, one book; Osee, one book; Amos, one book; Micheas, one
book; Joel, one book; Abdias, one book; Jonas, one book; Nahum, one book; Habacuc, one book; Sophonias,
one book; Aggeus, one book; Zacharias, one book; Malachias, one book. Likewise, the list of histories: Job,
one book; Tobias, one book; Esdras, two books; Esther, one book; Judith, one book; of Maccabees, two books.

Carthage 419:

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua the Son of Nun, The Judges, Ruth, The Kings iv. books, The Chronicles ij. books, Job, The Psalter, The Five books of Solomon, The Twelve Books of the Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezechiel, Daniel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, Ezra ij. books, Macchabees, ij. books.

Trent 1542:

The five books of Moses (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy), Josue, Judges, Ruth, the four books of Kings, two of Paralipomenon, the first and second of Esdras (which latter is called Nehemias), Tobias, Judith, Esther, Job, the Davidic Psalter (in number one hundred and fifty Psalms), Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Canticle of Canticles, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Isaias, Jeremias, with Baruch, Ezechiel, Daniel, the twelve minor Prophets (Osee, Joel, Amos, Abdias, Jonas, Micheas, Nahum, Habacuc, Sophonias, Aggeus, Zacharias, Malachias), two books of Machabees, the first and second.

Some of the names, order and combinations are different, but they are the same books.

The reason why the Trent list is the first infallible pronouncement of the list is because nobody ever challenged it before Luther!

1,576 posted on 12/08/2010 12:42:30 PM PST by shurwouldluv_a_smallergov
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To: shurwouldluv_a_smallergov
Not quite. The Orthodox and Coptic canons are different, and even in the West there was a lot of debate on the inclusion of some of the books.

And most Lutheran Bibles outside of the US have the Apocrypha included. They just are not treated with the same weight.

Inside the US, they were changed during WWI. But that is a different topic.

1,604 posted on 12/08/2010 1:54:19 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: shurwouldluv_a_smallergov

“The reason why the Trent list is the first infallible pronouncement of the list is because nobody ever challenged it before Luther!”

In your defense of Rome you continue to argue out of ignorance, willful or not i do not know, as i provided you with both documented history and links. You do not have to be a scholar do read the work of such,and to present an informed argument.


1,624 posted on 12/08/2010 3:09:32 PM PST by daniel1212 ( ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19))
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