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To: maryz; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

If Mary had never sinned, she wouldn’t have acknowledged that she needed a savior.

Mary’s Song
Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,

The whole reasoning that she was forgiven for sins before she committed them doesn’t make sense. In that case, she committed no sin to be forgiven for. It’s circular reasoning like none I’ve ever seen.

Mary didn’t need to be sinless because sin comes from within, not from without. Jesus was sinless because He was God Incarnate, not because didn’t have physical contact with sinful people.

If sin is transferred by contact, how was Mary immaculately conceived? Wouldn’t her mother have needed to be sinless to produce the (allegedly) sinless *ark* that carried Jesus?

And whatever miracle God would have used to produce a sinless Mary from sinful parents, why couldn’t He have used that same miracle to produce a sinless Jesus from a sinful Mary?

If Mary could be produced sinless from sinful parents but Jesus could not have been produced sinless from a sinful mother, that would make Mary greater in nature than Jesus.

What kind of God would Jesus be if contact with sin contaminated Him but not Mary?

What kind of God would Jesus be if contact with sinful people contaminated Him, period....?


1,567 posted on 12/08/2010 12:25:58 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; maryz; TSgt; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; the_conscience; ...
Great post.

Rome would have people believe that Christ not only got his human nature from Mary, but also some sort of perfection from her, too.

And that's a lie. All and only perfection came from the Holy Spirit.

From Mary Christ was able to know and understand sin and to feel the depth of it because Mary was a sinner just like the rest of mankind.

"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings." -- Hebrews 2:9-10


" For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." -- 2 Corinthians 5:21

Rome bows down to the creature when God's word tells us ALL the glory belongs to God ALONE.

1,578 posted on 12/08/2010 12:45:39 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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