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To: Judith Anne; boatbums
No matter how proddies try to diminish Mary, she was hardly incidental to Christ's life.

Every mother is important to their child, even if only for development.

That doesn't make Mary a deity.

Would you go to a heart surgeon's mother for a triple bypass solely based on her child's expertise?

Would you allow a mechanic's mother to adjust your brakes solely based upon her child's certification?

Mary was a wonderful, obedient servant for God. She did a very brave thing when others would have said "no" out of fear of how society would have condemned them.

There's no Biblical evidence that Mary remained a Virgin perpetually and there's no evidence of Mary being produced through immaculate conception.

We know she was a virgin while carrying Jesus. Why isn't this enough for you?

1,236 posted on 12/07/2010 5:19:51 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear
That doesn't make Mary a deity

Great! You agree with the Catholic Church on that point.

1,240 posted on 12/07/2010 5:22:14 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
there's no evidence of Mary being produced through immaculate conception.

Nor should their be.

Isaiah ch 11 1Out of the stump of David’s family£ will grow a shoot—yes, a new Branch bearing fruit from the old root. 2And the Spirit of the LORD will rest on him—the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD. 3He will delight in obeying the LORD. He will never judge by appearance, false evidence, or hearsay. 4He will defend the poor and the exploited. He will rule against the wicked and destroy them with the breath of his mouth. 5He will be clothed with fairness and truth.

Mary's genealogy is found in Luke ch 3. 32David was the son of Jesse. Jesse was the son of Obed.

Mary had to be born of man of the line of Jesse for prophecy to be fulfilled. Luke's listing of genealogy is Mary's as Luke was a physician and used the maternal records. Matthew was a tax collector and kept the father {head of house} genealogy meaning Joseph.

It sounds conflicting to some folks but Joseph Mary's husband would be called {considered as} Mary's fathers son when he married her. Both mary and Joseph trace to Jesse but Christ is the Son Of GOD. Mary's line is the one from which Christ came in prophecy. The mothers line made one a Jew not the fathers. An example being the Apostle Paul who was both Jewish and Roman. Jewish by Jewish Law through his mom and Roman by Roman Law by his dad.

1,252 posted on 12/07/2010 6:17:02 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Grizzled Bear
We know she was a virgin while carrying Jesus. Why isn't this enough for you?

The question of the ages.

1,481 posted on 12/08/2010 10:16:43 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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