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Was Mary Sinless?
The Aristophrenium ^ | 12/05/2010 | " Fisher"

Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: SumProVita; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

I’ve persistently demonstrated not only a willingness to work together with mutually respectful RC’s . . . even those formerly or occasionally very hostile to me

WHEN they decide to behave in a mutually respectful way.

I have no compulsion to molly coddle outrageously fiercely hostile, mean-spirited, personally assaultive RC Rabid Clique jerks.


261 posted on 12/05/2010 8:41:35 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Grizzled Bear

A reasonable question is Why, why would Mary’s image or vision be seen vs. all the other “saints” given the prayers offered to them.


262 posted on 12/05/2010 8:42:08 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: freedumb2003

Probably.

However, it was adequate for those with ears to hear and eyes to see.


263 posted on 12/05/2010 8:42:49 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Ever read Hebrews?

It seems obvious most RCs have NEVER read Hebrews. If they had, they would understand that Christ is the only "sinless" person and the only priest and the only mediator and the only one to whom men should bend their knee or pray or venerate or adore or emulate.

264 posted on 12/05/2010 8:43:27 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: editor-surveyor; SumProVita

Yeah, I originally typed in “abortion and persecution”, but figured those issues were understood, in addition to the God given Liberties threatened by the Left and its fanatical partners in crime.

Onward Christian Brothers and Sisters...


265 posted on 12/05/2010 8:43:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Some act like it’s a special commission from Gracious Mary to be nasty . . . probably sent engraved in brown on a white hanky sealed in black wax.


266 posted on 12/05/2010 8:43:51 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: xzins; RnMomof7; P-Marlowe

“Mary, the Mother of My Lord and My God, is Blessed!”

Council of Ephesus (431 A. D.)

‘We confess, then, our lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God perfect God and perfect man of a rational soul and a body, begotten before all ages from the Father in his godhead, the same in the last days, for us and for our salvation, born of Mary the virgin, according to his humanity, one and the same consubstantial with the Father in godhead and consubstantial with us in humanity, for a union of two natures took place. Therefore we confess one Christ, one Son, one Lord. According to this understanding of the unconfused union, we confess the holy virgin to be the Mother of God because God the Word took flesh and became man and from his very conception united to himself the temple he took from her’ (Formula of Union [431 A.D.]).


267 posted on 12/05/2010 8:44:21 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: metmom

>>By your own admission, twice now at last count, you are not a Catholic.

What are you doing on this thread? It doesn’t appear that it’s any thing more than stirring the pot and provoking hard feelings against Protestants.<<

Just because I am not a Catholic it doesn’t mean I can;t defend their beliefs. I spent many years of study in a sort of Jesuit pursuit of knowledge and ecumenical scholarship.

And the hard feelings here are NOT “against” Protestants.

Unless you are on a parallel thread of which I am unaware.


268 posted on 12/05/2010 8:44:46 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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To: lara; RnMomof7

Yes RnMomof7, what was your point of posting this article?


269 posted on 12/05/2010 8:45:42 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Cyclops08

“Nowhere is there an example of people praying to the dead in the Bible. Zip. Nada. Nowhere!”

Arise, Lazarus.


270 posted on 12/05/2010 8:45:46 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: freedumb2003; count-your-change; Quix
The appearances I list are heavily researched and are not just images on burnt toast.

Satan maquarades as an angel of light. Do these apparitions point towards Jesus, "the narrow gate," for salvation?

Even if the message seems "spiritual," anything that distracts from the true source of salvation is not of God.

271 posted on 12/05/2010 8:46:15 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: freedumb2003
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272 posted on 12/05/2010 8:46:18 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: smvoice

At least on odd days.

Or is it even days?

Or is it when Nurse Rachett is in seclusion?


273 posted on 12/05/2010 8:47:22 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Proddys are accused of “. . . blaspheming the ‘Blessed Virgin . . .’”

Obviously they must have forgotten that
IN BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY,
one can only BLASPHEME
GOD!

They didn’t forget it, they don’t know it. God’s Word is just a tool they wrap their deception in. So according to their counterfeit religion with it’s doctrine and traditions - they probably instituted another rule - it’s a sin to blaspheme their idol Mary. Like the Muslims, they have their own set of requirements, like death to the Jews and Christians. Different religions have their own set of rules and do’s and don’t s.

It’s has nothing to do with Christians who follow The Truth - His Word that He gave us, His Church.


274 posted on 12/05/2010 8:47:22 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: freedumb2003

> “...be it the King James (considered by scholars to be the worst translation ever)”

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Accidental mistake, or deliberate falsehood?

Actually, by true scholars analysis, it is among the best, but not to be considered a complete treatise either.

The basic doctrines are the same in all the major translations. The important issues that are popping up now are due to the failure of the basic Greek to pass the meaning of the hebraic idioms through. This failure affects all of the commercially prodeced versions, including the KJV, Geneva, NASB, NIV, RSV, and the Douay.


275 posted on 12/05/2010 8:47:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

She had an Angle appear to her and say you are going to have a child the son of God.

Yep, I think your right she expected some really interesting things were going to happen.

Just had to through that in /s


276 posted on 12/05/2010 8:48:32 PM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
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To: Quix
Some act like it’s a special commission from Gracious Mary to be nasty . . . probably sent engraved in brown on a white hanky sealed in black wax.

As I commented above the usuals suspects who declare Professional Virginity are the ones reading minds & assigning motives and engage in potty language.

277 posted on 12/05/2010 8:48:40 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Quix

Proverbs 16:27

A scoundrel plots evil, and his speech is like a scorching fire.

Matthew 12:36

But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.

Matthew 15:11

What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’”

James 3: 6

And the tongue is a flame of fire

Galatians 5:22

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness......


278 posted on 12/05/2010 8:48:58 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

INDEED.

I’m wondering . . . what is all this finger frothing from so many RC’s recently?

And newcomers?

Is it because of all the Nativity scenes

jerking all their Maryolatry buttons to the extreme?

Is it something in the gingerbread?

The missletoe?

Some subliminal messages in the Roman Catholic version of the carols?

Maybe it’s a specially polluted brand of sugar?

Too much eggnog?

Mystifying.

I’d thought we were actually beginning to . . . as most of two groups . . . act more like Christians on the FR forum toward one another.

Leave it to the Rabid Clique RC’s to blow that budding tree out of the water.


279 posted on 12/05/2010 8:50:14 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Grizzled Bear

>>Even if the message seems “spiritual,” anything that distracts from the true source of salvation is not of God<<

The Mother of Jesus appearing to a simple country farmer — speaking of the Love of God and resulting in the conversion of an entire hemisphere of the world from paganism to Christianity — is hardly a “distraction.”

Ignorance is a menace to those who would respect God’s word.


280 posted on 12/05/2010 8:50:47 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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