Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
When I really want to know the most precise interpretation, I use a study Bible and a concordance and look up the meanings of the words in their original language.
This link is very useful.
You can compare multiple versions of one verse on one page, and then click on one of the links above and go to the Greek or Hebrew and connect with a Strong’s and find the meaning and other usage of the word in the Bible.
lol, the guy pings me to 19 out of 20 posts and when i respond to the 20th, he says he wasn’t talking to me. I dont think he even knows what he’s talking about, just yapping
I really don't care what you do or don't believe. Since you obviously don't believe the Revealed Word of God it isn't an insult if you don't believe me either. People like you have a bidirectional filter on their brains. They restrict what comes in and goes out to only what conforms to their preconceived prejudices.
Why doesn’t He?
What is the gospel?
Actually, the despicable act was making a personal assault and "authoritatively" citing evidence that one knows to not be verifiable. Some might go so far as to call that lying.
is she in the heartland?
Cronos I know and understand what you are saying. But in truth it will be The Holy Spirit who determines and teaches us final truth in meaning of a wording. Mans readings meaning anyones can be in error as well as mans writings for they are works of man. That is why I said what I said in Post 1344. Even the Disciples own understndings at times were in error as The Bible shows. The corrections came from The Holy Spirit either by Divine Revelation or by The Holy Spirt within a person doing the correcting like Paul correcting Peter.
No doubt.....
It’s been pretty quiet since the crevo debates have pretty much ceased. They need to have something to chew on to keep the site going.
Attacking FR provided most of the impetus for that site to keep going.
Are you really that seriously clueless to what that post was about?
By the same token, wouldn't it also be disingenuous to claim that the majority of posts pulled were made by Catholics without proof?
To further complicate matters, it's not at all uncommon for the RM to pull a post which quotes another pulled post.
It's hardly a secret that some of these threads get very heated, from time-to-time a poster is banned, suspended or asked to leave the thread; aside from that, it's somewhat foolish to read much into it.
Why, thank you, Cronos, you are a gentleman and a scholar! ;o)
Boy, is that a relief - I was worried that you thought I was insulting you.
Catholics believe Christ is "true God and true Man", His human and divine natures perfectly united in one Person -- not 50% of each in some weird amalgamation. Perhaps you'd assign different percentages , , , or perhaps you wouldn't assign a "percentage" to "true God" at all . . .
You do still seem to be using circumlocutions to avoid saying that Christ is God.
From Mary Christ was able to know and understand sin and to feel the depth of it because Mary was a sinner just like the rest of mankind.
This you have made up from whole cloth -- and follow it with apparently randomly generated scripture verses as if they were the source or the confirmation, which they are not.
What I said, over and over, is that some here through a fit when I questioned their claims that Mary remained a virgin throughout her life following Jesus' birth.
At least one claimed that Jesus could not be devine if this was otherwise.
Scroll back through this thread and you'll see I'm not "repeating an untruth."
I was talking about the opinions of persons who claim membership in said church. They strongly expressed their faith in the power of Mary's virginity.
Are the people not the church?
The original New Testament church had no priests and no pope. The NT church did not pray to the deceased saints, or Mary . Mary was a part of the NT church, but she was not the church. There is no record of Mary after Pentecost when she received the Holy Spirit.
The reason we do not hear of her after that is that she was not essential or a part of the development of the New Testament church
She was respected by the disciples I would think, ..but no one felt she was important enough or essential enough after Pentecost to write about.
There is no record of the apostles or disciples going to visit Mary and ask her prayer or intercession.. none , nada.. If that was to be practice in the new church they would have modeled it and the Holy Spirit would have seen that it was left for us to know through the infallible word of God
If Mary was sinless, God would have wanted to be glorified for sparing mary the sin of Adam, if He had assumed Mary into the heavens He would have recorded it in His word for our edification and His glory
The Catholic church has deified Mary, intentionally or not. In doing that they have removed themselves from the gospel of Christ and instead preach another gospel that has a god that does what his mother tells him, so she is the one that one goes to in time of need
Gal 1:8
Yes. Maryz asked RnMomof7 on a very public message board. This left the question open for anyone to answer.
The manner in which I answered seems to have disturbed you. You seem to have reacted by attempting to moderate my interaction with Maryz.
While I certainly appreciate your efforts, you should be well aware that we have an active and capable Religion Moderator who monitors these threads.
Perhaps if you asked nicely, you too could be a moderator.
Maybe you could find these posts you claim exist. Are you sure you didn't just read too quickly and reverse the claimed causality, i.e., that both the Immaculate Conception and Perpetual Virginity are appropriate because Christ is divine -- they didn't cause the divinity, but were caused by it.
The Bible is the infallible word of God, knowing that, the question has to be raised, if it is not in the scripture..how does one know with absolute certainty that the doctrine is correct and from God ?
The early church fathers believed that you needed to check doctrine against the scripture...
If someone does not know the bible he will never know if his doctrine is really true.
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