Was Mary Sinless?

The Aristophrenium ^ | 12/05/2010 | " Fisher"

[Cronos]

Cronos: We like to believe that the Holy Spirit is all-powerful and He protected Mary from sin.

Iscool: For what purpose???

I don't know -- why don't you ask Him? Don't you realise that the ways of God are God's ways? Why do you question His ways?

Do you think it impossible for the Holy Spirit to preserve a created being like Mary from sin? Just as the Holy Spirit is living within all us Christians and the Holy Spirit permeates Christ's Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church

[Judith Anne]

My reference is the teaching authority of the Catholic Church, as I said in my previous post.

[1000 silverlings]

Well that is your reference, all those millions of Catholics off the reservation, have a different idea, 7,000,000 is it? to one, so who’s right? How do we know?

[Cronos]

Actually, no, I read God’s Word, in the Bible quite often thank you — do you and your crew here do the same? What about you, Uri? Do you as a Protestant read even the Epistles of Paul, James, Peter? What about you Alex? Do you read the same as Uri?

[Cronos]

Actually, no, I read God’s Word, in the Bible quite often thank you — do you and your crew here do the same? What about you, Uri? Do you as a Protestant read even the Epistles of Paul, James, Peter? What about you Alex? Do you read the same as Uri?

[Lera]

This needs to be repeated over and over cause so many people just don’t understand how much order there was in God’s plan.

Thanks Uri’el-2012

[Cronos]

Oh, and of course, you must remember This thread that suggests that if you read the NIV instead of the KJV, you're a heretic who believes that Jesus is the same as Lucifer! --- this is typical sola mio nonsense

[1000 silverlings]

119 million, and 3 Popes said it was ok for individual Catholics to deal directly with the Holy Spirit, bypassing Rome, speak in tongues, have visions and recite prophecy.So 119 million, with 3 pope’s blessings, can do everything other pentecostals can do, so I guess that’s your authority

[Judith Anne]

What is “off the reservation” supposed to mean, according to you?

[Judith Anne]

119 million, and 3 Popes said it was ok for individual Catholics to deal directly with the Holy Spirit, bypassing Rome, speak in tongues, have visions and recite prophecy.

Link?

[Cronos]

I'll repeat what I asked you in post #482 why do you think your denying of Mary's sinless affect your salvation?. Why does your gruop's definition of beliefs hinge on negativity? No love in God, just attacking Christ's Church?

I'll repeat to you once more

As per Church teachings, Christ's sacrifice is what won us salvation. All Glory to Christ who saved us. His sacrifice was super-sufficient for our salvation. THAT is Church teaching

We pray to God, we ask others to pray for us.
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[Cronos]

***So is eating pork or lobster. Puts an extra meaning into the phrase “a damned good meal.”***

Except the New Testament did away with dietary laws, just like circumcision.

Really? Let's ask Uri what a Protestant like him thinks of this point of saying it's ok to eat pork or lobster and no to circumcision

[Cronos]

Isccol: No Protestant says everything has to be in scripture

REALLY? No Protestants agrees with SOLA scriptura? What do you, Rn, Met, Game and Alex say to that? What does the OPC say about this statement, Dr, E?

[Cronos]

Also, by the way, you just lied -- Church teaching is that Salvation is from Christ's sacrifice which was sufficient for our salvation.

Why don't you read up a bit? you're the same guy who said "the pope doesn't wash anyone's feet" and then was given adequate proof that this happens each Maundy Thursday! You consistently have wrong facts, about history, Church teaching, the Bible which, if you had actually read a bit, could have saved us the effort of pointing out all of your numerous errors.

[Cronos]

Do read the bible a bit ok, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you" (John 6:53).

Also, I know that your cult has a membership of one, but didn't know that it was now dabbling in vampirism to drink other people's blood -- I thought your cult just spent time repeating crazy stories without bothering to check up on them, but now your cult seems to be dabbling in Buffy-lore.

[Cronos]

"call your priests father" --> what rot are you talking about? I call my priest Ksiądz -- even as a form of address -- which translates as "priest".

Do READ a little bit. Just because your little command of English colors your world view, don't forget that English is the exception in having no honorifics.

[Cronos]

don't talk about Jesus...It's always Christ this or Christ that...

1. Do read -- even this thread.
2. You DO realise that Jesus Christ is one "being" God and Man, right?

[Cronos]

Iscool: don't talk about Jesus...It's always Christ this or Christ that.

Izzie Lizzie -- do read, if you can't read the bible, at least read this thread before spouting off and looking like an idiot. Here's some sample posts for you:

Post 934 by wagglebee "the Immaculate Conception and Assumption of the Blessed Mother are things that JESUS DID, not Mary."

In 934 again But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God: and that believing, you may have life in his name. -- John 20:31-31

And again But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written. -- John 21:24-25

And 914 by me Mary did NOT save herself, she needed salvation and got that from her God, her Son, her Savior. Jesus saved Mary, He was her savior. He saved her, protected her from sin.

And 904 It gives them (Calvin followers) a reason to shout (and they don't shout "I believe in a God of Love, in Jesus Christ", rather they shout "hate, hate, hate. Hate CAtholics, hate Arminians, hate Methodists, hate Pentecostals, hate, hate, hate")

And ROE in post 826 In his wonderful book “Jesus of Nazareth”.

Those are just a few. Do read even this thread before shooting your mouth off. Do you see the numerous times Catholics here refer to Jesus, Jesus Christ. But, don't let that stop you from coming up with fantastical stories like we "don't talk about Jesus...It's always Christ this or Christ that" -- oh and you DO realise the it is Jesus Christ, right? GOd and man, right? Not some strange beliefs that your cult of one has.

[Cronos]

cronos: To Rn and Met: Do you think it impossible for the Holy Spirit to preserve a created being like Mary from sin?

Iscool: Why would he??? He didn't preserve Adam and Eve from sin...

Ah, there you go Iscool, doubting the power of the Holy SPirit. you think He can't or couldn't do something so simple for Him? you doubt His powers? you should remember that a sin against the Holy SPirit is unforgiveable -- don't go about maligning Him and His power. And don't go about questioning the Holy SPirit.

[Cronos]

There's a reason John didn't tell us the other signs that Jesus performed...And that's because they were nothing that we needed to know for our salvation...

Ah, so you now can read minds of St. John and others? Also, so you say it's ok for something not to be in the bible because they were not needed for our salvation? the IC and Assumption are not necessary for our salvation -- Church teaching is that salvation came from Jesus Christ's sacrifice.