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Difficult Questions for Mormons
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Posted on 12/01/2010 6:28:46 PM PST by delacoert

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1 posted on 12/01/2010 6:28:51 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

Popcorn’s hot, coke’s in hand.....

Let’s see what the cultists (who otherwise are very nice) have to say about their very polite blasphemy.....

What about all of the battles with Iron implements and elephants and other nonsense that is in the book?

Popcorn is good.....


2 posted on 12/01/2010 6:47:44 PM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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To: delacoert

If you get a reply that is beyond “you bigot, you hater, bla bla bla..........” ping me. Oh ya, PD obligatory cut and paste unofficial lds sources doesn’t count as a real reply.


3 posted on 12/01/2010 6:51:08 PM PST by svcw (If you put a crouton on a your sundae instead of a cherry, it counts as a salad.)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

Your Honor, Council is badgering the witness. . .Christianity is proved by the life, not the lip. . . nor by flippant lie detector tests. If we show more love we would be more persuasive for Christ.


4 posted on 12/01/2010 6:55:30 PM PST by McBuff
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To: delacoert
I too anxiously await the ANSWERS, lol.

You did a good job in those questions.

Oh, for those who have ears and fail to hear, or eyes who fail to see.

WAITING!!!!!

5 posted on 12/01/2010 7:00:05 PM PST by annieokie
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To: McBuff

John 21:15-17 (King James Version)

 

 15So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.

 16He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

 17He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.


6 posted on 12/01/2010 7:09:09 PM PST by delacoert
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To: McBuff

asking questions is so unloving.


7 posted on 12/01/2010 7:11:32 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

You could have included the Smithian use of ‘Lucifer’ in the passage supposedly quoted directly from Isaiah 14, which only got in Isaiah via Jerome’s Latin translation of the tanakh and then the King Jmaes scholars using the copies subsequent to that translational choice of a Latin name.


8 posted on 12/01/2010 7:15:11 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: delacoert

To some who want us all to just get along it is loving your neighbor to allow someone to feed them poison. If the poster persists in the folly, perhaps I should post some of the poison the new adherents to mormonism are not fed until after they’ve been properly herded along the broad road and are nearing the wide gate. Do ya think the poster would even recognize the poison?


9 posted on 12/01/2010 7:20:59 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: delacoert; All
Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Sometimes they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, then quote and straw man attack that. Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you, the seeker of truth out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you?

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 


10 posted on 12/01/2010 7:31:36 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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11 posted on 12/01/2010 7:47:04 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: delacoert
asking questions is so unloving.

How about answering this question.

Luke 11 And they asked him, “Why do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?”

( 12 Jesus replied, “To be sure, Elijah does come first, and restores all things. Why then is it written that the Son of Man must suffer much and be rejected? 13 But I tell you, Elijah has come, and they have done to him everything they wished, just as it is written about him.” Matt11:13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. 15 Whoever has ears, let them hear.

Jesus says that Elijah the prophet is John the Baptist, his cousin. But John the Baptist says he is not Elijah.

John1: 21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” He answered, “No.”

24 Now the Pharisees who had been sent 25 questioned him, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?”

So who is telling the truth? Jesus or John? And if Jesus was right...why didnt John "restore all things"? He did not restore all things.

12 posted on 12/01/2010 7:50:39 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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Pick a biblical prophet... any author... Paul... Peter... John... Choose any one man who had a significant role in the writing and or compilation of the bible and imagine if they were to be wiped from existence along with anything they contributed (via inspiration from God), and Christianity would still exist. The bible would still exist. The Gospel itself would remain unchanged.

Not true with Mormonism... for if you wipe Joseph Smith from the face of history, Mormonism would go with it. (no doubt to be replaced with some other cult of Christianity) Nevertheless, the truth of Mormonism rests solely upon the existence of a single man.

That should be evidence enough that it is NOT from God.
Because God always confirms His truth through multiple sources.

How many authors are contained within the Bible?

How many authors in the book of Mormon?

Mormonism is a fraud... straight from the spirit of the anti-christ himself.


13 posted on 12/01/2010 8:21:13 PM PST by Safrguns
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Yawn.

I’ve been lurking for quite a while and I just can’t quite get why people here think they are doing good by posting stuff like this. Sorry for assuming, but it sure seems like it’s more about the posters’ own egos than helping any poor deluded Mormons. Self-congratulation usually ends with only one set of hands clapping.

Erecting a tired out echo chamber for Mormon bashers every couple of days must get old at some point.


14 posted on 12/01/2010 8:53:33 PM PST by nando9
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Seekers of Truth, here's a link to a series of videos which will reveal the truth ... about Mormonism.
15 posted on 12/01/2010 9:16:11 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Utah Binger

You might get a kick out of the link ...


16 posted on 12/01/2010 9:16:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: nando9

No, n00b, warning of impending doom that enthralls those captured by Momronism or endangered by Momronism lies doesn’t get ‘old’. But reading posts from stealth posters like yourself does get a bit tiresome. If you ever become Born Again, the family name and the Identity of the God of Creation will be of interest to you. The God of Christianity is not the same god as that of Mormonism. Would you like a few quotes from the founders of Mormonism which define the Momronism god and the Mormonism jesus? ... Even a non-Christian could discern the difference very easily.


17 posted on 12/01/2010 9:21:19 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: delacoert

A loving heart and asking questions are unrelated. One can ask a question with a loving heart and one can ask a question with derision in their heart.


18 posted on 12/01/2010 9:27:47 PM PST by McBuff
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To: nando9
I’ve been lurking for quite a while and I just can’t quite get why people here think they are doing good by posting stuff like this. Sorry for assuming, but it sure seems like it’s more about the posters’ own egos than helping any poor deluded Mormons.

Well, a good portion of those taking a stand against mormonism here are ex-mormons themselves. I'm sure they'll be the first to tell you it's not worth walking miles or years in their shoes to find out the truth. The ones they are helping are those who are not caught up in the lie yet, or are looking for a way out of it... and I doubt you would ever see them post their appreciation considering what they've gone through.
19 posted on 12/01/2010 10:20:02 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Tennessee Nana; Godzilla; Colofornian; Elsie; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; SZonian; SENTINEL; ...

Y’all might find this video series useful ...


20 posted on 12/01/2010 11:10:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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