Don’t put words in my mouth. What I said was “It’s been done and the conversion will happen according to God’s time line, not yours.
The consecration has not been performed as requested by Our Lady. If Pius XII did not do it in 1948 by specifically mentioning Russia, then logically JPII did not do it by his not even mentioning Russia.
Read scripture about Gedeon (really read the whole thing, not just what I give you).
17 Judges 7:2 And the Lord said to Gedeon: The people that are with thee are many, and Madian shall not be delivered into their hands: lest Israel should glory against me, and say: I was delivered by my own strength.
Read Gedeon and you will understand how God works his miracles. God wants EVERYONE to know that a miracle has occurred. The conversion "happening over a long time line" (1984 to 2010++++) will not convince anyone that it was caused by a "consecration" in 1984. That is why He asked through the Blessed Mother that the consecration be done in union with all the bishops, and that the object of the consecration be ONLY Russia. The consecration must be in the open, that is why all the bishops. It will be controversial, for EVERYONE to likely ridicule. No one will be able to deny that it was done. No one then will be able to hide the connection with the miracle of the conversion, it will be instant, like Gedeon's victory. God did not waste the greatest miracle in the history of mankind, Fatima, for no one to notice.
OK. So we can only use your quotes. Got it.
You call the 1900 years of saints quotes “fatalistic”,
There you go putting words in my mouth again. What I said was I do not subscribe to your fatalistic attitude.
and you quote Padre Pio as if he’s saying “don’t worry be happy”. Worry, in the sense that Padre Pio is saying, is called despair, which is a sin against hope.
There you go speculating again. I quoted Padre Pio in the sense If you remain in a state of grace and have an active prayer life, the troubles of the world wouldn’t worry you so much. As a matter of fact, if everybody took this advice to heart and acted on it, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. That is the difference betweeen my outlook and yours.
However, in the sense that you take it, “the saints were fatalistic” (you said it!),
You need to stop speculating, I did not say that, I said you were.
and for you we have to not let anything disturb our sleep through life (like the 1960’s hippies, “smoke a joint man, and it’’l pass, peace, man”.
Your mind reading skills are terrible
God wants EVERYONE to know that a miracle has occurred. The conversion "happening over a long time line" (1984 to 2010++++) will not convince anyone that it was caused by a "consecration" in 1984.
Is this an infallible pronouncement or just your opinion?
God did not waste the greatest miracle in the history of mankind, Fatima, for no one to notice.
I never said the miracle was wasted nor did I say no one will notice. God works in mysterious ways. You act as if you wrote the script.