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To: Claud

“God certainly could do such a thing if He wanted to”

That is a the clincher, isn’t it? But the Scriptures do not speak of Christ being omnipresent. He is spoken of as being either here or there or somewhere but not in several places at once, i.e., he has a particular location at a particular time and so the Scriptures describe him. So he is one or the other but not divided amongst numerous places and meals.

As to “compelling” the notion that bread and wine are changed into flesh and blood but still look, feel, taste and otherwise retain all the physical qualities of bread and wine, well compelling it is not.

Even the description, “His Presence in the Host” assigns location in some confused way since the bread and wine is supposed to actually BE his flesh and blood not just a thing he resides in. Maybe that bread and wine can pass through walls and locked doors?

But according to Jesus own words the only thing it will pass through is the gut and end up in the sewer since it really is bread and wine.


81 posted on 11/19/2010 8:17:30 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
He is spoken of as being either here or there or somewhere but not in several places at once, i.e., he has a particular location at a particular time and so the Scriptures describe him. So he is one or the other but not divided amongst numerous places and meals.

He is holding a piece of bread at the Last Supper and He says "This is my body". Is. Not represents, not symbolizes, but is.

Therefore you have Jesus still in his body, holding his body in his hands.

Plus, also let's not forget the multiplication of the loaves and the fishes in this context. Whatever the Eucharist is, it is a *miracle*, so trying to put into this nice little box of human spatial conception is not necessarily the best idea.

84 posted on 11/20/2010 6:21:26 AM PST by Claud
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