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To: smvoice
When that wafer is turned into the true and real body of Christ, does Mary have a true and real presence in that wafer?

None, at least none outright stated in the article.

6 posted on 11/17/2010 12:46:39 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Alex Murphy; smvoice

It’s Christ’s body, not Mary’s body in the Eucharist, although it would take an extraordinary ignorance of biology not to see an obvious connection there. Particularly since the Holy Spirit has no body to give him, so Christ’s body was physically derived from the body of Mary alone.

And it may be a fine point, but we do not say Christ is present IN the “wafer” after the consecration. Rather, there is no more “wafer”. What is on the altar is 100% Christ and nothing else—the substance of the “wafer” is annihilated entirely and only its accidental characteristics remain.

Ugh..”wafer”. I hate even using that word in this context, it’s so disrespectful. At least call it “bread” if you can’t stoop to saying “Communion”.


10 posted on 11/17/2010 1:05:00 PM PST by Claud
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To: Alex Murphy
The sacrament is the body and blood of the Lord that has come to us through Mary’s body and through her saying yes to God.

This is what I'm curious about. He was part of her body, just as our bodies are part of our parents bodies. If His body is real and true in that wafer, then her presence is in that Eucharist. And when that wafer is changed into His body, her presence is in that wafer too. One-half of the substance of His body; half from the Holy Spirit and half from Mary.

My question is, does the Catholic Church teach its members this, or is this just something that isn't considered by Catholics who believe that Christ is real and present in the Eucharist?

11 posted on 11/17/2010 1:08:06 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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