I objected to your "imputing motive" to the author of the article. From your original post, "In any case, the article suggests that these beliefs are generally lies, and specifically, generally lies of Mormon missionaries. Which means that the Mormon missionaries saying these things are generally liars. Meaning that they, like the author (presumably), don't believe the tenets of their religion, and thus act in bad faith."
Pretty clear case of suggesting something (presumably) a million miles from what (likely) was in the author's mind.
...I didn't intend it to be an invitation for you to proselytize for Catholicism in return.
I simply have a problem with someone who hasn't "walked the (mormon) walk" pontificating on the "possible" reasons for the author to state his conclusions after having had a chance to reflect on the actions he took as a mormon missionary.
IMO, you may have been speaking from the position of one who is absolutely convinced of the superiority and truth of YOUR faith regarding the journey of someone who has painfully discovered his own to be lacking and in the process denigrating the man who quite probably was speaking from his heart. Quite a stretch.
“Sorry...I don't see where your post is responsive to MY post.”
Made perfect sense to me. ;-)
In the first place, as I've replied before, I don't see much evidence that the author, himself, was lying when he affirmed the beliefs of the LDS religion as a missionary. Not in the article, at least. Thus, these aren't even lies vis-a-vis his own missionary work.
I continue to make an exception with regard to #1 since that's more about someone’s state of mind than about affirmation of propositional beliefs.
“...I didn't intend it to be an invitation for you to proselytize for Catholicism in return.”
I don't think that I did. If you think that I did, then therein lies part of the problem. Your perception and mine differ. Could be that your perception differs, as an ex-Mormon, from the perception of current Mormons.
“I simply have a problem with someone who hasn't ‘walked the (mormon) walk’ pontificating on the ‘possible’ reasons for the author to state his conclusions after having had a chance to reflect on the actions he took as a mormon missionary.”
Okay then. May we reflect on some of your experiences?
When you were a Mormon, did you believe the tenets of the religion (at least up until the time you started to consider serious doubts that caused you to abandon the religion)?
If you were an LDS missionary for a period, when you were telling people about LDS beliefs, did you disbelieve them, yourself?
Do you think that every LDS missionary thinks that what he believes is untrue?
“IMO, you may have been speaking from the position of one who is absolutely convinced of the superiority and truth of YOUR faith...”
Aren't YOU persuaded of the truth of your faith? If not, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IT??
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