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To: Stourme
Revelation 20:12 is a scene of what comes for those who are not previously caught up together with Jesus in the clouds. Have you not read IThessalonians4 and in Corinthians? The dead in Christ rise first, then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them. These whom Jesus comes to be with Him are not int he scene in Rev 20:12. You really don't want to be in that groupd, Stourme. You're not righteous enough to get a good report.

IThessalonians4:13-18 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
[See Deut 30:4]

95 posted on 11/06/2010 5:39:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

[MHGinTN]

Revelation 20:12 is a scene of what comes for those who are not previously caught up together with Jesus in the clouds. Have you not read IThessalonians4 and in Corinthians? The dead in Christ rise first, then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them. These whom Jesus comes to be with Him are not int he scene in Rev 20:12. You really don't want to be in that groupd, Stourme. You're not righteous enough to get a good report.

[Stourme]

Since when did you become Jesus? I know you pronunce yourself saved...do you now think you have the power to judge others too? Wow some ego ya got there.

I guess I understand what James said now:

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Your assessment of Rev 20 is wrong. John is using symbology to show that all men will be judged. The first resurrection will happen when Christ returns. The second some time after and then the third. But all men, good or evil will stand before Christ. Rev 20 refers to the final judgement. This happens a thousand years after the return of Christ. Dying at sea has no significance other than to show that no one will be forgotten in the resurrection and the judgement.

Since you tried to change the subject... let me restate my point...

The first mark of a man made gospel is one that doesn't require constant prayer to our Father in Heaven. They say "believe our interpretation of the Bible because we say so."

James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

We are saved by the grace of Christ. Christ has put qualifications on who will receive that grace.

Anyone that doesn't teach what James and John taught are teaching false doctrine.

James says that if we don't have works our faith is dead, works are as necessary to be judged as having faith at the final judgement. It's hard hearted people that know this, but refuse to accept it by choice. Only the humble will receive the grace of Christ.

96 posted on 11/06/2010 6:25:09 PM PDT by Stourme ((www.thebayougardener.com - my favorite website))
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