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To: MHGinTN

If that’s the best you can do, and that fluff suits you, then God has much more to say unto you.


14What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

25Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.


I believe the above is talking about what we should do instead of what we should not do, in other words Jesus died so our sins would be forgiven us, for those who believe, that has been established.

But we also have to live our life here on this earth, if we can not obey God when he tells us not to do something, how about trying to obey him when he tells us to do something?

A friend of mine commented that he had failed miserably on the first part, but said he was doing better on the second part.

He said that he was badly tempted by women, so the no,s were hard to do for him, but that to give some one something to eat if they were hungry was much easier because he did not have no temptation not to do it, so by doing it he believed that it was works by faith.

The bible says plainly that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, but how many times have you ran across some one who you knew were the worst of the sinners that was even more willing to help some one than a more respectable person.

I do not know how to put it all together but i believe we are all different and we do not all have the same if any gifts.

If we are believers God is here with us.


82 posted on 11/06/2010 2:03:20 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: ravenwolf

What James is saying in 2:14 is that if it is a faith without works (works = a lifestyle of obedience to God), it is a DEAD faith—that is, it is not the true faith in Jesus Christ—it is faith in something or someone else, thus DEAD.

He is asking, the kind of faith that says, “I believe,” but has no works—can that faith save? Then he give an illustration, v. 15-16 to show that faith without works doesn’t save any more than it helps to tell a hungry person just to be filled.

In v. 20 he says faith without works (a righteous lifestyle) is useless.

In v. 21 he says that Abraham was justified by works when he offered up Isaac. “Justify” means “to declare righteous,” “to show to be righteous.” In this context it means “to show to be righteous.” In other words, Abraham was SHOWN TO BE Righteous when he offered up Isaac, Gen. 22. He had already been DECLARED righteous in Gen. 15:6, when he believed.


83 posted on 11/06/2010 2:21:18 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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