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I've posted many many passages fro Stourme, to show how faith is first and faith is what gets counted to make one whole in Christ. But Stourme calls it gobbledegoop. He calls it that because the things of the spirit are not discernable to the carnal mind, the natural man, the unregenerate soul.

I post the passage where the woman with the issue of blood for many years reached out to touch just the hem of jesus garment, faithing that He could heal her, and Jesus turning to tell her her faith hath made her whole ... and she was unclean thus her work was as filthy rags in Jesus's presence, but her faith in Him caused her healing by Him.

I posted passage after passage where Jesus tells those made whole that it is their faith which hath made them whole. And still the unregerate mind refuses to see the truth. The poster himself even offered a passage from John which has Jesus explaining that works of righteousness do not happen unless God is in you, because Jesus told the Pharisees even if they do not believe He is The Son of Man, to look at the works which Jesus could not do unless God be in Him the author of the works. And still the darkness is more comfortable to the poster. Pride/selfrighteousness is a very powerful poison dontchaknow.

I’ve posted many many passages fro Stourme, to show how faith is first and faith is what gets counted to make one whole in Christ

I think you are right, but has any one ever stopped to help you when you needed help? if so did you think of them as being Gods people, at least in some cases, because they were doing what God said to do? was their works showing their faith, i believe this is the kind of works that James is speaking of.

If some one tells you they have faith do you believe it? or do you need to see it before you decide?

I am not a works of the law believer, but i do not believe that is what James is talking about, i believe he is simply talking about doing to others as you would have them do unto you.

How ever i do not know what the object of your comment believes.

When i was a kid i once received a one dollar bill from a stranger to buy something to eat, ( well it happened more than once )i said thanks and i will pay you back, well how could i pay him back? i did not even know who he was, he told me that if i ever found any one in the shape i was in to just give it to them and that would be paying him back.

It did not take me too many years to understand what he meant, but that is what it is all about.

One of the commandments is to love thy enemy, how would you love your enemy other than to give them something to eat if they were hungry? or to pull them out of the ditch?

For all i know the man who gave me the dollar to buy me something to eat may have considered me an enemy.

Those things has had more to do with me being a believer than any other thing.

If i had to show my faith by works of the law, i would be lost :period:

Also if we had to show our faith by works of faith we also would be lost as far as the church is concerned, because we are not to do every thing to be seen of men, True works of faith are rarely seen of men.