Stourme you are getting confused again from all of your spinning again. DIdn't you earlier claim that Christ did not die for the UNGODLY. Now you are making essentially the opposite statement - the he DID die for the ungodly. Confusion reigns in the mind of the mormon apologist.
I'm not sure what Bible you're using but that's not John 6:28.
LOL, look at this metmom, he really is in a tail spin-
Metmom version
28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Stoume version
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Apparently stourme cannot tell the difference between the NIV and KJV and even SEE that they say the same essential thing. LOL and stourme sez you've been deceived mm LOL.
No one is saying they do. Jesus Christ saves us. Jesus has requirements that must be met or He will not save us.
Lurkers will note that this is the crux of the deception. You have to be 'worthy' and 'godly' (essentially completely sinless within your life by your efforts) BEFORE Jesus will "save" you. Stourme likes to put the words of Jesus out there - ignoring what comes first - faith/salvation or works. Typically mormon, he gets them backwards. What does Jesus say -
John 3: 16* For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jesus speaks of no WORKS, no ORDINANCES, no temple sealings, not marriage, not even tithing - but faith expressed as belief. Since stourme claims to be a believer in looking at the whole bible Paul writes:
Ro 5:15* But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
To meet requirements is a wage, an obligation. Wages and obligations are the opposite of FREE, and a free GIFT at that. Do you pay for your gifts to you at Christmas in order to get it? For most of us the answer is no. From what stourme says, for mormons it is yes. Make that child earn the $$ for that bicycle you are going to 'GIVE' them on Christmas.
This brings us back to the point stourme has dodged all day that Paul addressed a few verses earlier -
Rom 5: 6* For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
7* For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8* But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Christ died for the ungodly - nothing to 'merit' that death - nothing to 'earn' merit for that salvation. Stourme would do well to remember what else Paul wrote in this book
Ro 11:6* And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
It is grace by which we are saved - no qualifying works necessary. Perhaps a reminder from God how he views these works of righteousness
Isa 64:6* But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
If stourme does his homework, he will see that the phrase "filthy rags" is more literally rendered bloodied menstrual cloths - probably the LEAST clean thing under the mosaic law. It is these 'works' that stourme wants to claim are acceptable to Jesus in order to be saved.
Sadly, mm, this is a case or mormonitus to the max. Only enough biblical study to promote the 'twistyanity' of mormon doctrines - while being ignorant to the rest of what scripture has to say on the subject. Playing loosy-goosy with context where it benefits them, discounting context where it destroys their arguments.
Well, the posting here today have shown the shallowness of the mormon interpretation of the scriptures to the max.
All works based religions beat the same drum.
If the Law that God gave is incapable of saving, any law that man makes up and adds to grace and faith is incapable of saving as well.
All these works based religions simply add their own version of what works(law) needs to be done or kept. Replacing the Law, which couldn’t save, with another law, which can’t save either, is an exercise in futility.
But it sure makes people feel good to be in control.