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To: MHGinTN
[MHGinTN] Stourme, I'm going to rightly quote then 'divide' the Bible passage for you, to give you an illustration of simple exegesis.

[Stourme] Oh spare me and the other readers. You're just going to put it into the spin cycle and turn plain text into unreadable gobble-d-gook.

[MHGinTN]When salvation /being born again happens, at that point in time the saved have the Holy

Too late... you've already done it...great scott.... and when scriptures conflict our preconceived notions we just spin it and spin it until it's unreadable. This is why people..

2 Timothy 3:5,7
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

The reason these people in the last days can't come to a knowledge of the truth is because they can't accept the truth. The means they have to admit they were wrong. Their pride won't allow that.
So instead of just taking the text at face value and believing God speak to them in their own language.... they make up these huge explanations that in the end have absolutely no meaning.
They'll fool themselves for a time.

James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only 

When you can finally admit that we have to have works and faith together to be saved, we can continue the conversation.
But the continued misdirection is tiresome...

Here.. work on this one...

It's easy ...just agree with James.. faith without works is dead...say it with me...
124 posted on 11/06/2010 10:11:40 PM PDT by Stourme ((www.thebayougardener.com - my favorite website))
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To: Stourme

>>It’s easy ...just agree with James.. faith without works is dead...say it with me...<<

“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” John 6:28-29


142 posted on 11/07/2010 5:55:44 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Stourme

Stourme...

You made a claim and accused me of misreading the Bible.
I pointed out that Christ died for the UNGODLY, as the
Bible clearly says.

You were wrong. Yet you skipped right over that and kept
going.

Are YOU willing to recognize YOU are UNGODLY?
Or do YOU reject the clear message of the Gospel of Grace?

best,
ampu


148 posted on 11/07/2010 6:37:10 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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