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To: Stourme
You have need of more study, to show yourself approved, rightly dividing the Word, because you certainly don't know how yet.

"Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:" Stourme, who are the 'them' Jesus is referring to and what are the things Jesus commanded them to do? HINT: Jesus was referring to those Saved and baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of The Holy Spirit, and the things 'them' are to do is love God first and above all, and love one another. Jesus was referring to those in Whom His Salvation has arrived and have lives left to live. Remember what Jesus told the Pharisees who were desperate to know what God command that they do to do the works of righteousness? ... You seen the passage posted for your edification on more than one occasion. Do you believe Jesus?

BTW, Storume, in my post to you where I mention judging, perhaps it would help you if i use 'weigh' and 'weighing' as in weighing your words against what the Bible teaches. So I'll try to do that hereafter, for clarity. It's a good word substitution, since God used it in Daniel Chapter five also (HINT: Mene mene tekel upharsin)

105 posted on 11/06/2010 8:20:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
[MHGinTN] You have need of more study, to show yourself approved, rightly dividing the Word, because you certainly don't know how yet.

I'm sure you think I do.

Jesus had this same problem in His time.

John 5:38 - 40
38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

The Jews read their scriptures but couldn't see that Jesus was the Messaiah. Can't see the forest for the trees.

[MHGinTN]Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:" Stourme, who are the 'them'

"them" is irrelevant. The point is He is commanding them to go 'do'. Teach them to observe all the things... According to you there's only one thing to observe. This proves you wrong.

2 Timothy 3:1 - 8
1 THIS know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

For this conversation there are several points to be taken from this scripture. It gives a warning for those in the last days, or our time.
Have a form of godliness, but deny the power of it. Those are people that go around repeating the name of God. But they ignore most of the Bible. They don't believe God has the power to call a prophet in the last days. They claim all you have to do is believe while at the same time refusing to acknowledge the relationship of works to salvation. They deny that God has the power have more of His written down than what's in their little Bibles. (Which they don't really believe anways)

Jannes and Jambres were priests in Pharoahs court. In the last days or our time, these people will fight against the true prophet. Just like these men did to Moses.

Jesus gave the same warning:

Luke 13:23 - 24
23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved?  And he said unto them,
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

People striving or seeking the way to heaven but won't be able to get in.

Luke 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.

These people think they are with Jesus. They believe is their Lord. But they will not be allowed into heaven.
As Paul says, they only have a form of Godliness.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Simply having faith that Jesus is your savior is not enough. The are crying Lord Lord but not DOING the will of God. They have a form of Godliness...but that's it.

116 posted on 11/06/2010 9:11:13 PM PDT by Stourme ((www.thebayougardener.com - my favorite website))
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