No, AMPU is spot on with this exergesis. Paul writes same =
Ro 5:8* But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
The 'wrong' is mormon emphasis that one must be 'worthy' first.
But the chains are on you stormy - it is mormonism where you must be 'fully repentant' to be forgiven.
Christianity is correct - the 'work' is done completely by Christ. “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” (John 1:29) I don't see stormy's (or my name) as the one taking it away from the world.
Christ came for everyone and invites all men to follow him. There can be NO GODLY people with out the atonement of Christ. Jesus Christ paid the price for sin for all those who would follow Him.
you've just sunk your argument with this stormy. Christ's atonement permitted the ungodly to approach the throne of grace where HE took the sins away and then made sinner 'godly'. Paul speaks to this in the enlarged passage from Romans that sticks in your craw stormy -
Rom 4:13-23 Paul talks about Abraham and that his righteousness was imputed to him on the basis of his faith alone. Rom 4: 24-25 Paul makes clear that the same righteousness is imputed to us by simple faith where in vs 25 Paul states "Who was delivered for our offenses, and was raised again for our justification." Jesus wasn't delivered for us ONLY WHEN WE BECOME GODLY - but for our OFFENSES. Paul continues to rise up in support of AMPU's statement:
5:1* ¶ Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2* By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Still see nothing where the person must become godly first. We are dikaioo by faith, dikaioo greek meaning be rendered righteous - by Christ as there is no mention of any works on our part - the whole section refers to Jesus doing the work.
Paul further rebukes your claim stormy
Rom 5:6* For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
Now what did AMPU say earlier? [aMorePerfectUnion] Yes, HE came to die for the UNGODLY!
Word for word what Paul wrote in verse 6. In verse 7, Paul puts the final nail in your doctrinal coffin -
7* For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
Yet as spoken in verses 6 and 8 - Jesus died for the ungodly.
Sorry stormy if you jumped on the wrong bandwagon.