Posted on 11/05/2010 6:32:25 PM PDT by Colofornian
I still have no malice towards anyone here I remain puzzled
I’ve never seen you EVER do other than spread ugliness and meanness. I’m done with you Resty. Good bye.
Excuse me Vendome there is no proxy maybe a misunderstanding but no proxy.
I ping 1010RD to # 710 somehow he ended up on #2!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2622457/posts?page=710#710
You forgot about the “Who me, I am all about brotherhood yada yada yada” half of the Restornu shtick...
Mormon Women sing “There is Sunshine in My Soul Today”
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGzPiWEdbeA&feature=related
21,000 Mormon Women sing “Now Let Us Rejoice”
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=QWJ0gywLe2Y&feature=related
Not Biblical. All we know is that she was a virgin prior to the conception of Jesus Christ. Jesus is not the Father, something Jesus himself makes clear.
LDS doctrine doesn't rely on the Bible alone. Here's all we have in the Bible about the conception of Jesus:
Luke 1:31-1:38
31And now, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you will name him Jesus. 32He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his ancestor David. 33He will reign over the house of Jacob for ever, and of his kingdom there will be no end. 34Mary said to the angel, How can this be, since I am a virgin [I do not know a man]?* 35The angel said to her, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born* will be holy; he will be called Son of God. 36And now, your relative Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son; and this is the sixth month for her who was said to be barren. 37For nothing will be impossible with God. 38Then Mary said, Here am I, the servant of the Lord; let it be with me according to your word. Then the angel departed from her.
As to method we don't know any more. We do know that Mary did not have sex with her husband until after Jesus was born.
Matthew 1:25 (New International Version)
25 But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.
That's all we know from the Bible. LDS doctrine teaches differently given additional revelation. Believe as you like, but using the Bible alone you cannot surmise beyond what we have as to method of conception for Jesus. All we know is that she was a virgin prior to conceiving Jesus Christ. She couldn't physically remain one after his birth. Joseph consummates the marriage, no mention is made of her continuing virginity and Jesus has siblings.
No one can believe in just any old being they happen to label as Jesus and expect that that's good enough. Only the virgin born Jesus, who is God Himself, sinless, died, buried and was resurrected, the Jesus of the New Testament, is capable of saving anyone. False Jesus's can't save anyone.
True and I presume you mean Mary started as a virgin as she certainly couldn't be one after Christ's birth.
That said, one doesn't have to believe in the Trinity to be saved. That's a Biblical fact.
Israel, Israel, God is Calling - Mormon Tabernacle Choir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=769pUFbzAio
Thank you Restornu for helping to clarify that.
I don’t follow these threads. They’re not fruitful and little Biblical knowledge is exchanged, just a lot of acrimony and opinion. I went to the beginning to see what it was about. Vendome’s comment summed it up nicely - Poppycock.
Which is what it remains.
Christians would be better served following the Founder’s examples and retain Christian decorum by simple respect for conscience.
The LDS are Christians per the Bible.
I have no interest in belittling or making lite of anothers faith for I hold dear it means something to them,
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and yet you are all for dead dunking others out of their “faith” of Judaism or Christianity and into your own religion of mormonism...
in fact you even give money so that the evil and arrogant insult can continue..
So much for “free agency”
simple respect for conscience.
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Yeah I notice how much of that the mormons had for my Christian ancestors...
The mormons ignored the conscience of my ancestors and dead dunked them into mormonism, a religion that they would have adhored...
Ny ancestors were Bible believing 10 commandment obeying Christians in monogamous Christian marriages...
Not Bible hating, 10 Commandments breaking mormons in adulterous polygamous relationships...
clipping wings could be avoided if we just allow mormons to proselytize and pontificate to their hearts content without rebutting the fallacies of Joseph Smiths Book of Fiction....right, resty?
LDS doctrine doesn’t rely on the Bible alone
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But the LORD Jesus Christ who is God does...
The Bible is the only Word of God...
Nana sings “Jesus Loves me”
what do you sing ???
I have no interest in belittling or making lite of anothers faith for I hold dear it means something to them,
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and yet you are all for dead dunking others out of their faith of Judaism or Christianity and into your own religion of mormonism...
in fact you even give money so that the evil and arrogant insult can continue..
So much for free agency
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Somehow TN whenever you tell a story it is always embellished.
doing baptism for the dead is a vicarious gift just like when the Lord Jesus Christ died for all of us it was a vicarious gift to accept the covenant or move on.
If one does not act on their gift it lies dormant unless someone on the other side chooses to receives it.
(called exercising free agency)
Lurkers please make note this same accusation about the LDS baptism for the dead will repeated again in the near future.
LOL You have no clue what your ancestors choose to do or what has been taught them by the Lord’s servants!:)
doing baptism for the dead is a vicarious gift
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Oh its vicious all right...
All my ancestors said “No thanks, we prefer to follow the LORD Jesus Christ and died as Christians”
But they had no choice ....
the mormons forced the evil of mormonism on them when they were down and unable to fight back...
So much for “free agency”...
Okay, well riddle me this:
Are Christians, Christians or are they inferior Christians as opposed being Mormon?
Our Saviors Love: Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=GZW3sj2TKsw&feature=related
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