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To: OLD REGGIE; metmom; MarkBsnr
"You have come up with diddle.

Here are but a few of those who were diddled. They were tried and executed by Massachusetts for being Quakers and Baptists, not witches; Roger Williams, Anne Hutchinson, William Robinson, Marmaduke Stevenson, and Mary Dyer, William Leddra, and Wenlock Christison. There are many more who were arrested, tried, tortured (physically abusive penalties and sentences, banished to the deep woods (death), and cast adrift in small boats (death) whose fate was never recorded.

”In 1631 the Court of Massachusetts explicitly ordained that the quality of a free man, that is to say, the enjoyment of full rights, should not be granted except to the members of one of the churches of the colony. The same exclusivism prevailed, if not everywhere as a written law, still less as a custom in the other colonies. The civil affairs of the community were settled in the congregations of the faithful.” (David Masson, Life of Milton, II., p. 552).

“The situation has well been summed up by the Italian writer, Ruffini. "If the intolerance of these earliest Puritan colonists," says Ruffini, "becomes indubitably apparent from the extremely severe dispositions which they adopted against the Baptists, the Quakers, the Catholics, and even against the members of the Anglican Church, who were put into a boat by the colonists of Massachusetts and sent back to England, the close union between the civil and ecclesiastical powers is shown by these not less evident signs.

In the fundamental ordinances of the colony of New Haven, Connecticut (1639), it is laid down as a supreme principle that the Government must conform in everything to the Word of God. The colony, as Bancroft observes, thus adopted the Bible as its fundamental statute. Moreover, the compulsion of conscience and the confusion of the two powers blemished those colonial laws which imposed serious punishments upon citizens who did not scrupulously fulfill their religious duties and punctually pay the contributions belonging to the church and its ministers" (Francisco Ruffini, Religious Liberty, pp. 256, 257).

The problem wasn’t limited to Massachusetts and Connecticut. In 1659, Virginia enacted anti-Quaker laws, including the death penalty for refractory Quakers. Thomas Jefferson wrote: "if no capital execution took place here, as did in New England, it was not owing to the moderation of the church, or the spirit of the legislature."

Here is some more light reading on the subject of Protestant inhumanity to Protestants. There is ample more, but I doubt that you would bother to read anything that would cause you to doubt the heresies you have dedicated your lives to anymore than you will actually bother to read what I have already provided.

Isaac Backus, A History of New England, with Particular Reference to the Denomination of Christians called Baptists. Newton, Mass., 1871. 2 volumes.

Daniel Neale, The History of New England containing an Impartial Account of the Civil and Ecclesiastical Affairs of the Country to the Year of our Lord, 1700. London, 1720. 2 volumes.

Benjamin Franklin Bronson,Palfrey on Religious Intolerance in the Colony of Massachusetts Bay, The Baptist Quarterly, VI., pp. 147-180, 280-300.

Lucius E. Smith, The New England Ecclesiastical Legislation, The Baptist Quarterly, I., pp. 81-101. Philadelphia, 1871.

Norman Fox, George Fox and the Early Friends, The Baptist Quarterly, XI., pp. 433-453. Philadelphia, 1877.

831 posted on 11/05/2010 11:18:52 AM PDT by Natural Law ("opera Christi non deficiunt, sed proficiunt")
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To: Natural Law; metmom; MarkBsnr
"You have come up with diddle.

Here are but a few of those who were diddled. They were tried and executed by Massachusetts for being Quakers and Baptists, not witches; Roger Williams, Anne Hutchinson, William Robinson, Marmaduke Stevenson, and Mary Dyer, William Leddra, and Wenlock Christison. There are many more who were arrested, tried, tortured (physically abusive penalties and sentences, banished to the deep woods (death), and cast adrift in small boats (death) whose fate was never recorded.

”In 1631 the Court of Massachusetts explicitly ordained that the quality of a free man, that is to say, the enjoyment of full rights, should not be granted except to the members of one of the churches of the colony. The same exclusivism prevailed, if not everywhere as a written law, still less as a custom in the other colonies. The civil affairs of the community were settled in the congregations of the faithful.” (David Masson, Life of Milton, II., p. 552).

“The situation has well been summed up by the Italian writer, Ruffini. "If the intolerance of these earliest Puritan colonists," says Ruffini, "becomes indubitably apparent from the extremely severe dispositions which they adopted against the Baptists, the Quakers, the Catholics, and even against the members of the Anglican Church, who were put into a boat by the colonists of Massachusetts and sent back to England, the close union between the civil and ecclesiastical powers is shown by these not less evident signs.

In the fundamental ordinances of the colony of New Haven, Connecticut (1639), it is laid down as a supreme principle that the Government must conform in everything to the Word of God. The colony, as Bancroft observes, thus adopted the Bible as its fundamental statute. Moreover, the compulsion of conscience and the confusion of the two powers blemished those colonial laws which imposed serious punishments upon citizens who did not scrupulously fulfill their religious duties and punctually pay the contributions belonging to the church and its ministers" (Francisco Ruffini, Religious Liberty, pp. 256, 257).

The problem wasn’t limited to Massachusetts and Connecticut. In 1659, Virginia enacted anti-Quaker laws, including the death penalty for refractory Quakers. Thomas Jefferson wrote: "if no capital execution took place here, as did in New England, it was not owing to the moderation of the church, or the spirit of the legislature."

Here is some more light reading on the subject of Protestant inhumanity to Protestants. There is ample more, but I doubt that you would bother to read anything that would cause you to doubt the heresies you have dedicated your lives to anymore than you will actually bother to read what I have already provided.

Isaac Backus, A History of New England, with Particular Reference to the Denomination of Christians called Baptists. Newton, Mass., 1871. 2 volumes.

Daniel Neale, The History of New England containing an Impartial Account of the Civil and Ecclesiastical Affairs of the Country to the Year of our Lord, 1700. London, 1720. 2 volumes.

Benjamin Franklin Bronson,Palfrey on Religious Intolerance in the Colony of Massachusetts Bay, The Baptist Quarterly, VI., pp. 147-180, 280-300.

Lucius E. Smith, The New England Ecclesiastical Legislation, The Baptist Quarterly, I., pp. 81-101. Philadelphia, 1871.

Norman Fox, George Fox and the Early Friends, The Baptist Quarterly, XI., pp. 433-453. Philadelphia, 1877.

I am certain Mark thanks you for carrying his water for him.

The first sentence of your post is actually a rather concise summary. viz. "Here are but a few of those who were diddled." A few. Count em.

Further, allow me to paraphrase a quotation from the self-avowed "I know everything - you know nothing" genius.

A rule of thumb that I use is that I believe 0% of anything I read on these forums, but make some notes and do my own research. That is why I so often have so much contempt for the authoritarian pronouncements made by the self proclaimed genius.

Shhhh - I know everything - you know nothing.

861 posted on 11/05/2010 2:52:22 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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