We are saved by Christ Jesus after we are born into sin; Mary was preserved from that by Christ Jesus, her Savior, before she was born. She still needed her Savior, Christ was her Savior as He is ours.
This discussion is fruitless. It makes no difference if I explain my beliefs, you (plural) give no evidence that you (plural) care what they are. It appears that you (plural) are simply playing gotcha, forgetting that we Catholics are not limited as you are to Holy Scripture, but also have Holy Tradition to guide us.
Scripture reference please.She still needed her Savior, Christ was her Savior as He is ours.
If she never sinned, she didn't need a savior.
“Mary was preserved from that by Christ Jesus, her Savior, before she was born.”
Again, all I ask for is a Scriptural citation, not a repetition of a claim. If it’s true, show me in Scripture; I might be more convinced.
“It appears that you (plural) are simply playing gotcha, forgetting that we Catholics are not limited as you are to Holy Scripture, but also have Holy Tradition to guide us.”
If the “gotcha” refers to the inability to provide actual, inspired, scriptural support, then, well —
GOTCHA!!!
And it shows. As for “Holy Tradition” — nothing “holy” about it. So, if that is considered a limitation, praise God Almighty for that limitation; I thank Him that I am limited to Him and Him alone for my salvation, my existence, and my future! I thank Him that He is all I need.
And THAT is in Scripture.
Sadly, it does seem to be a fruitless discussion; but we persist hoping that The Lord will open the eyes blinded by “Holy Tradition” and awaken hearts and minds to Him and Him alone.
Hoss