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To: boatbums
That verse doesn't say "believe Christ", it says "That whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." You put the spin on in

Where is the spin? I said "you have to believe Christ in order to be saved by Christ" The verse said ""That whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." What did I spin?

I did add "So you have, among other things, [to] do what He says and that includes the good works that He teaches". Do you disagree with this conclusion? Apparently yes, since you repeat the Faith Alone slogan. So where do you disagree, exactly? That he does not say that we ought to to good works? Or that believing Him does not necessitate believing that part of His teaching? Or that believing Him does not mean believing what He says at all?

Please explain yourself.

Also, the reader who thinks that my accusation of spin is unfounded is invited to review post 6,409, where the doing of good works is explained as a naturally occuring condition.

6,823 posted on 01/07/2011 5:16:48 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
Please explain yourself.

Actually, I'm done trying to explain this. That you cannot see my point about "spin" after numerous attempts to explain only proves that maybe you can't or won't see it, I don't know, only you can answer it. But I'm done wasting both our time on it. Thanks for the sparring.

6,900 posted on 01/07/2011 8:10:43 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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