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To: metmom; Notwithstanding
and so naturally the non-stop “reformation” began, creating millions of popes - each man his own.

What is it with Catholics not being able to grasp the idea that every man is equal to every other man, CREATED EQUAL?? Do Catholics also, by this standard, reject the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. Constitution? Every man is his own captain, responsible for his own ship. If I didn't know better, I would think Catholics are not comfortable with freedom of any kind...perhaps the reason they don't understand that democrats take freedoms AWAY...and just keep voting them in. Or perhaps they DO understand that, and just want to be controlled in everything they do. Tell them what to do, and they will follow, smiling all the way. Give them their freedom to decide, whether in politics or religion, and they coil into a fetal position in a corner, confused and afraid to move.

64 posted on 10/31/2010 6:29:07 PM PDT by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: smvoice
"What is it with Catholics not being able to grasp the idea that every man is equal to every other man, CREATED EQUAL?? Do Catholics also, by this standard, reject the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. Constitution?"

Why don't you get off your high horse and visit any military cemetery and see how many Catholics are buried there. I have a suspicion that you never served a minute and don't know anything about the Catholics who served so you could spout that nonsense. While you are at it why don't you check the percentage of Catholic soldiers that fought for the Union as compared to the percentage of Confederate soldiers that were Catholic.

66 posted on 10/31/2010 6:51:39 PM PDT by Natural Law ("opera Christi non deficiunt, sed proficiunt")
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To: smvoice
What is it with Catholics not being able to grasp the idea that every man is equal to every other man

What do the Gospels say?

Matthew 20: 25 But Jesus summoned them and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and the great ones make their authority over them felt. 26 But it shall not be so among you. Rather, whoever wishes to be great among you shall be your servant; 27 whoever wishes to be first among you shall be your slave.

Mark 9: 33 8 They came to Capernaum and, once inside the house, he began to ask them, "What were you arguing about on the way?" 34 But they remained silent. They had been discussing among themselves on the way who was the greatest. 35 Then he sat down, called the Twelve, and said to them, "If anyone wishes to be first, he shall be the last of all and the servant of all."

Luke 12: 47 That servant who knew his master's will but did not make preparations nor act in accord with his will shall be beaten severely; 48 and the servant who was ignorant of his master's will but acted in a way deserving of a severe beating shall be beaten only lightly. Much will be required of the person entrusted with much, and still more will be demanded of the person entrusted with more.

Matthew 13: 12 To anyone who has, more will be given 5 and he will grow rich; from anyone who has not, even what he has will be taken away.

None of these basic teachings of Jesus in any way refer to equality of all men. Some have greater gifts and who are expected to do more than others. We have the first/last scenario.

Matthew 19: 28 19 Jesus said to them, "Amen, I say to you that you who have followed me, in the new age, when the Son of Man is seated on his throne of glory, will yourselves sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has given up houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive a hundred times more, and will inherit eternal life. 30 20 But many who are first will be last, and the last will be first.

Do Catholics also, by this standard, reject the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. Constitution? Every man is his own captain, responsible for his own ship.

Have you not heard the Gospel of Calvin in which it is not possible for any man to choose, but every action is dictated by the Reformed God from before the creation of the Universe? I have heard it said many times that the United States Constitution and its equality and freedom for all men comes from Reformed beliefs. Yet how can that be, since there is no freedom under Calvin?

101 posted on 11/01/2010 7:40:03 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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