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To: MarkBsnr
Notice the order - it is key. What word? The word of the Church. Not the Word - that is Jesus, but the word. What word? Since none of the NT has been written, it is ONLY by the word of the Church teaching the new Christians.

And what are they teaching them? The Faith of the Church. Where is it written down? Nowhere. It is held in the great oral tradition of the Jews, only the information is that of Christianity, not Judaism.

You don't even make it thru the 1st sentence without distorting the truth...Again...

2Th 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Epistle=written New Testament scripture...Paul indicates that parts of the written New Testament were being circulated and these traditions are being recorded into scripture...And this is confirmed by the Apostle Peter...

And since I and all other Christians were put into the Church BY GOD when we believed, as the scripture states, and membership in your requires the 'good works' of your sacraments, a year of indoctrination and approval by your clerics, it is clear that your religion is not the Church of the Bible...

6,214 posted on 12/29/2010 3:16:41 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
You don't even make it thru the 1st sentence without distorting the truth...Again...

Nonsense. Paul was writing in his capacity as a long standing bishop of the Church. "Our" means the members of the clergy who have authority to write in such fashion.

Epistle=written New Testament scripture...Paul indicates that parts of the written New Testament were being circulated and these traditions are being recorded into scripture...And this is confirmed by the Apostle Peter...

Paul indicates nothing of the kind. If you have something here, prove it. Otherwise, consider this: 2 Peter was written centuries after Peter died in an attempt to squash the apparent rift between Paul and the rest of the Church. Epistle means a letter written. That's all. Paul had no idea that his letters would become Scripture.

And since I and all other Christians were put into the Church BY GOD when we believed, as the scripture states, and membership in your requires the 'good works' of your sacraments, a year of indoctrination and approval by your clerics, it is clear that your religion is not the Church of the Bible...

God put YOU into His Church? Not very picky, is he? And now you are saying that your salvation is of works? Your tune changes, my friend. In the next phrase, you accuse Catholics of the same thing and disapprove of it. We wrote and chose the Bible - we decided which books would be included in the NT, and which version of them; we further decided that the Septuagint was to be the OT Bible. If you adhere to the Canon of Scripture, upon whose authority do you decide your religious beliefs? Upon the Holy Spirit?

Or the image you see in the mirror...

6,260 posted on 12/30/2010 1:21:46 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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