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To: metmom; annalex; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Annalex: Sure I can, because it is a knowledge possessed by the Church, which is not expressed in the scripture.

This is the heresy of Gnosticism. One of the primary beliefs in Gnosticism was the possession of "secret knowledge" by the chosen few. It would be good to repent of it.

6,125 posted on 12/28/2010 8:55:07 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
This is the heresy of Gnosticism. One of the primary beliefs in Gnosticism was the possession of "secret knowledge" by the chosen few. It would be good to repent of it.

We are past the mystery stage. God has reveled to us all that we need to know.

Claiming extra-Biblical revelation is a hallmark of cultic activity.

Ephesians 3:1-13 1For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner for Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3 how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

7 Of this gospel I was made a minister according to the gift of God’s grace, which was given me by the working of his power. 8To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things, 10so that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places. 11This was according to the eternal purpose that he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord, 12in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through our faith in him. 13So I ask you not to lose heart over what I am suffering for you, which is your glory.

Colossians 1:24-29 24Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, 25 of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God that was given to me for you, to make the word of God fully known, 26 the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to his saints. 27 To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. 28Him we proclaim, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone mature in Christ. 29For this I toil, struggling with all his energy that he powerfully works within me.

6,126 posted on 12/28/2010 9:12:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Annalex stated..." a knowledge possessed by the Church, which is NOT expressed in the scripture." Wmfights reply...."This is the heresy of Gnosticism. One of the primary beliefs in Gnosticism was the possession of "secret knowledge" by the chosen few. It would be good to repent of it.

You are spot on Wmfights. The same Gnosticism that permeated the church in the dark ages continues to this day within the catholic church. As Metmom has so amptly said.."catholics want it both ways"...they straddle the fence.... Thus they miss the mark of the high calling which is in Christ Jesus...and instead bask in the aura's of their own self-made doctrines and traditions.

I still think they hold tightly to the church and rome, rather than Christ, because doing so feeds their egos and their desire for self importance...especially those who have entrenched themselves in catholic writings and various authors over the centuries. Some read and study so that they might not feel alone, just as many of the ancient authors did. It fills the emptyness within rather than Christ and a relationship with Him.

6,130 posted on 12/28/2010 9:52:13 PM PST by caww
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