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To: annalex; RnMomof7; presently no screen name; metmom

>> “So Paul did not mean it when he wrote ‘will render to every man according to his deeds?’ “<<

Where do you gather salvation out of that? Its just not there.

Here is what Paul said WRT salvation:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

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So, you see, we cannot do good works unless we are already saved.


5,973 posted on 12/27/2010 6:43:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Who has bewitched these foolish Galatians?


5,975 posted on 12/27/2010 6:47:14 PM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: editor-surveyor; RnMomof7; presently no screen name; metmom
Where do you gather salvation out of [the role of works in Romans 2:6-10]? Its just not there

Sure it is. Those "patient in good works" get "eternal life"; -- that's salvation. Those who "work evil" -- otherwise. Compare Matthew 25:31-46.

[cites Eph 2:8-10] we cannot do good works unless we are already saved.

It says "God hath before ordained that we should walk in [the good works]", so I don't think so. What kind of faith would that be, disobeying what God had "ordained" (it really says "prepared", by the way)?

6,589 posted on 01/03/2011 8:16:25 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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