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To: annalex; Gamecock
That Protestants do good works does not surprise me, but exhortations from a Protestant pulpit to do good works make no sense had the pastor himself believed his Faith Alone drivel. If works followed automatically from faith without involvement of the free will, there would be no more need to exhort people to charity than there is a need to exhort people to eat when they are hungry.

Get ready, one day you will stand before the Lord God Almighty and explain to him why you call grace through faith "drivel".

Christians are exhorted to be faithful in doing good because it is what being a Christian is about. By our lives we give testimony of the rebirth that comes when we accept Christ as our Lord and Savior. Good works such as love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness are called the "fruits of the Spirit". They indicate a person who has been born of the Spirit and it is his work within us. By our free will we choose to do these works, we assent to the leading and guiding of the Holy Spirit to purify and mature our faith. Any person God uses to lead his people has this calling to not only lead others to a faith in Christ as Savior but to surrender themselves to him as their Lord.

5,738 posted on 12/22/2010 9:38:29 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

Amen!


5,740 posted on 12/22/2010 9:53:04 PM PST by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: boatbums; Gamecock; daniel1212
Annalex: from a Protestant pulpit to do good works make no sense had the pastor himself believed his Faith Alone drivel

Boatbums: why you call grace through faith "drivel".

I don't call the relevant passage of Ephesians 2 drivel because it is the Gospel taught by the Catholic Church. I called the false Protestant doctrine of Faith Alone (note capitalization indicating a known to the reader phenomenon of thought) drivel. It is not drivel? Then where is it in the Bible? Or you got yourselves your one tradition from someplace? It is not the first time that I ask.

By our free will we choose to do these works, we assent to the leading and guiding of the Holy Spirit to purify and mature our faith

Yes, exactly. This is why Faith Alone is empty drivel, because in the end a thinking Protestant himself would deny it.

From the next post, very similar: The role of the evangelist is to lead people to saving faith in Jesus Christ and then to direct them to a fellowship of believers for instructions in living the full life of a Christian.

Once again, if "living the full life of a Christian" is necessary for salvation, then you have denied Faith Alone, and if that is not necessary for salvation then why instruct anyone in what is not going to save them?

Further, it may be how an Evangelical pastor views his mandate, but it is not biblical. This is what Christ instructed the Church to which, you say, you somewhat majically belong:

teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

The Church is sent to teach observance of "all things commadned", and baptize. Sounds like teaching works, and celebrating sacraments to me.

6,396 posted on 01/01/2011 8:27:02 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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