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To: kosta50

But as you seem incapable of dealing with the anything related to the Bible and God without ending up in your narrow minded denigrations..why should i give you excuse to express more of the same?

Strike one. This is a predictable evolution of all your attemeptsto debate with me. Two more and this sidiscusison is over.

Kosta50, if anyone’s hold here should be considered tenuous it would be yours.

It is clear that Jesus wanted his message taught by "experts" and not read.

And just where is this clear?

By the fatc that he never told them to write anything but to spread the "good news" by word of mouth (preaching).  He didn't tell them to argue theology but to reveal the promise of salvation.

This is one of your retreats into formalism which you have resorted to before. So while the Lord sent them out to preach, he also never told them to ordain elders or maintain buildings and other reasonable things that would be conducive to the permanency of an expanding church, which hopefully their preaching would result in, thus such must also be disallowed. And it cannot be permitted by you that even though writing down revelation from God was the norm, and which Jesus Christ implicitly affirmed, and even though He reproved his unlettered disciples for not for believing what was written in the Scriptures concerning him, (LK. 24:25-27) that He expected them to eventually write down what they had seen and heard, and to promote fluency in the Scriptures.

..and never said that you needed to be an apostle, prophet, or teacher to study the Scriptures, and commended Timothy having known as a child the holy scriptures “which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.” (2Tim. 3:15)

That is Paul, and Paul is no Christ. Chrst never said what Paul said.

That is irrelevant as regards Rome's opposition to private interpretation, which was the issue, as she affirms the opposite of what you oppose.

5,620 posted on 12/19/2010 7:19:42 PM PST by daniel1212 ( ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: daniel1212

Kosta50, if anyone’s hold here should be considered tenuous it would be yours.

No one is forcing you to post to me. I merely reminded you to stop using personally disparaging remarks (such as "you seem incapable" or "your narrow-minded denigrations") with someone you choose to debate.

I don't go around making personal comments about you capabilities or lack therefor, or your narrow-mindedness even if I thing you are. You believe the Bible and I don't, so stop quoting it to me unless you are prepared to allow me to respond without classifying it as "denigration."

This is one of your retreats into formalism which you have resorted to before.

Well, this is your retreat to "lableism," which you have resorted to before. What I said is that the disciples were sent to proclaim the good news and not to engage in theological lectures. They were supposedly simple fisherman after all.

And it cannot be permitted by you that even though writing down revelation from God was the norm,

Who says?

and which Jesus Christ implicitly affirmed, and even though He reproved his unlettered disciples for not for believing what was written in the Scriptures concerning him, (LK. 24:25-27)

There are numerous sites, to use your argument, that shown that there is nothing written about Jesus in the OT, but that it is a Christian innovation.

He expected them to eventually write down what they had seen and heard, and to promote fluency in the Scriptures.

Where did he command them to write anything down and to promote "fluency in the Scriptures"?

[That is Paul, and Paul is no Christ. Christ never said what Paul said] That is irrelevant as regards Rome's opposition to private interpretation, which was the issue, as she affirms the opposite of what you oppose.

You have this fixation with Rome,  and I don't understand why you keep referencing it to me.  I already told you that private interpretation leads to relative morality, that every individual creates his own "theology." That's why you have endless denominations and interpretations and no one is of the same mind as they are supposed to be. Something's wrong with private interpretation. Jesus never promoted it., so why should Christians? Because Paul said so. But Paul is no Christ.

5,633 posted on 12/19/2010 8:58:50 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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