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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; daniel1212
But it's not just Paul. The Bible as a whole is dissonant and imprecise, open to interpretation and speculation.

Our non Catholic friends and opponents support that idea with overwhelming evidence.

Boy, have you ever 'missed the mark' saying that! What is so funny (ironic funny, not haha funny) about that remark is simply the salient fact that not one non-Catholic yet has agreed with yours and Losta, I mean Kosta's constant trashing of the Words of God in Scripture. How many times have you both high-fived each other over your shared distrust of the written word in the Bible going so far as to say you only consent to even believing it because you trust in your Religion first, and, well, since they say it's true, then, shucks, I'll believe it, too. BUT, only 'cuz they said to!

What is "dissonant and imprecise" is both of your own speculations on the truth regardless of the proofs easily found to the one who is honest about their search. Please don't try to pan off your own insecurity of your faith onto those who are sure of theirs.

5,566 posted on 12/18/2010 5:39:26 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums; MarkBsnr; daniel1212
What is so funny (ironic funny, not haha funny) about that remark is simply the salient fact that not one non-Catholic yet has agreed with yours and Losta, I mean Kosta's constant trashing of the Words of God in Scripture.

So, now you have reached for labels? I was wondering when the mask would fall and the true face show up. Of course, this along with the constant charge that any criticism of the official "truth" is "trashing."

5,584 posted on 12/19/2010 8:14:35 AM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: boatbums
But it's not just Paul. The Bible as a whole is dissonant and imprecise, open to interpretation and speculation.

Our non Catholic friends and opponents support that idea with overwhelming evidence. Boy, have you ever 'missed the mark' saying that!

I don't think so. With millions of different interpretations all clamouring for men's souls out there in the Protestant pantheon, the evidence is quite clear.

What is so funny (ironic funny, not haha funny) about that remark is simply the salient fact that not one non-Catholic yet has agreed with yours and Losta, I mean Kosta's constant trashing of the Words of God in Scripture.

Actually, I have never trashed Scripture, and neither, to my recollection, has Kosta. Your use of "Losta" is merely unkind.

How many times have you both high-fived each other over your shared distrust of the written word in the Bible going so far as to say you only consent to even believing it because you trust in your Religion first, and, well, since they say it's true, then, shucks, I'll believe it, too. BUT, only 'cuz they said to!

In case you hadn't been paying attention, the evidence is only partially supplied by Church authorities, and mostly by Jewish and other experts on early Christian writings. What is, is, bb. The very fact that the NIV, e.g. can be used to defend different doctrines than the KJV, e.g. can, means that the words in your Bible are suspect unless read and interpreted with the authority of the Magisterium.

What is "dissonant and imprecise" is both of your own speculations on the truth regardless of the proofs easily found to the one who is honest about their search. Please don't try to pan off your own insecurity of your faith onto those who are sure of theirs.

My faith is secure. It is yours that is fragile, if truth exposed would be so damaging to it. I have not rejected the Church created by Jesus the Christ and commissioned by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost and I am not the one to have been trying to compensate for that ever since.

5,596 posted on 12/19/2010 11:18:42 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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