[OLD REGGIE]

Telling lies IS very important, and the consequence is grave. For example, saying that "Mary had sex with Joseph" while pointing to a verse that does not say anything of the kind is telling a lie and the consequence is very unplesant to the teller.

Uh Oh! Telling lies IS very important, and the consequence is grave. For example, saying that "Mary never intented to have sex with Joseph" while pointing to a verse that does not say anything of the kind is telling a lie and the consequence is very unplesant to the teller.

Now, who has said this on numerous occassions?

[boatbums]

Uh Oh! Telling lies IS very important, and the consequence is grave. For example, saying that "Mary never intented to have sex with Joseph" while pointing to a verse that does not say anything of the kind is telling a lie and the consequence is very unplesant to the teller.

Also, how can it be telling a lie when Scripture says in many places that Jesus had brothers and sisters or that Joseph "knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son"? Who is really fabricating, the person who says Mary was a perpetual virgin (with no Scripture to back it up and only the statement that "Tradition" held to it) or the one who says she had a normal marriage and had other children (with Scripture)?

[annalex]

For example, saying that "Mary never intented to have sex with Joseph" while pointing to a verse that does not say anything of the kind is telling a lie

I explained how Luke 1:34 allows us to conclude that Mary did not intend to have sex with Joseph her husband following the marriage. I did not say that Luke 1:34 says anything other than what it says. Where is the lie?