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To: annalex
However, the Church always respected the civil law of the land

When did they stop? Endorsing illegal immigration is not respecting Our Constitution - the law of the land.

which indeed treated apostasy harshly.

Ya think the RCC might have some control issues? God doesn't force anyone to come to Him or believe Him. He told us there are two roads, life and death, and which one to chose, life. It's our decision. Compare that to the RCC.

Jesus, also, was treated harshly by the chief priests and experts in the law. "Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. They will treat you this way because of My Name, for they do not know the One who sent Me". And, indeed the RCC did persecute those who believed His Word.
515 posted on 11/03/2010 10:22:46 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
Endorsing illegal immigration is not respecting Our Constitution

Advocacy of the lower classes, even when they violate the law, is also a part of the Church's mission.

the RCC did persecute those who believed His Word.

The heretic does not know or understand the Word, that is why he is a heretic. However, in any case, all the heretics had to do was renounce Catholicism. If they want to belief their charlatan pastors they are free to do so but not under the Catholic label.

533 posted on 11/04/2010 6:00:02 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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"Endorsing illegal immigration is not respecting Our Constitution - the law of the land."

The Catholic Church does not vote, but millions of individual Catholics do. We voting Catholics have every bit as much franchise as any other collection of individuals. Get over it and get used to it because the Catholic Church will become even more politically engaged as we go forward.

Slavery was once constitutional and abortion still is. Mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism came down on opposite sides of both of those issues. 150 years ago there were similar animosities against the Irish immigrants and 100 years ago against the southern and eastern Europeans. Again, mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism came down on opposite sides of that argument. Which side do you think is right?

Endorsing, advocating and lobbying are not illegal. Neither is demanding that the protections embedded in out constitution be applied to all persons within our borders. Strip away those protections because someone entered the country illegally and you endorse the murder, robbery, rape, and exploitation illegal immigrants. That is hardly a Christian attitude.

563 posted on 11/04/2010 8:32:24 AM PDT by Natural Law ("opera Christi non deficiunt, sed proficiunt")
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