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To: annalex; metmom; count-your-change
The perpetual virginity of Mary is not an assumption. It is a fact passed on through tradition but not recorded in the Gospel. You choose not to believe it and I choose to believe it. But it is not an assumption that someone makes without knowledge. Someone had the knowledge and passed it on.

There are things about my family that have never been recorded. (in fact most things about my family have not been recorded, but that it beside the point). For example, my grandfather volunteered for the General Kolchak army, and since that would have earned him a firing squad under the Bolsheviks, he destroyed any evidence he had of it. But he told me that. It is a fact that has no documentary corroboration. It is still a fact. I tell it to you as a fact. Now, you may decide not to believe me. That makes it fact in which you don’t believe. But it is a fact nevertheless. You can tell me, — Annalex, I don’t believe you. Very well. But you cannot tell me —Annalex, you are making an assumption about your grandfather. I did not make an assumption based on some circumstantial evdidence. I have direct evidence. Same with Perpetual Virginity of Our Lady.

Please understand, in no way do I wish to demean the word of your grandfather but your logic is faulty in that you are basing your belief on hearsay. No scholar, judge, any professional, would accept it as fact.

You have no direct evidence concerning your grandfather nor is there any direct evidence concerning the Perpetual Virginity of Mary.

In both instances you base your belief on the unverified word of men.

4,944 posted on 12/07/2010 1:33:35 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
In both instances you base your belief on the unverified word of men

You mean like the Bible?

4,968 posted on 12/07/2010 5:50:02 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: OLD REGGIE; metmom; count-your-change
You have no direct evidence concerning your grandfather nor is there any direct evidence concerning the Perpetual Virginity of Mary.

In both cases someone I trust told me of certain facts and I trust the source. I trust my grandfather and I trust my Church, and I am happy to tell you of these facts as facts. Whether you believe them or not is not a concern of mine; as the Gospel says, there are people who won't believe even if someone came from the dead and told them.

5,231 posted on 12/12/2010 6:51:40 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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