[metmom]

The Catholic Church holds a very pious faith which has been consistent for at least 19 centuries.

So what?

I am willing to say that neither the first Christians nor the Catholic Church deliberately lied about things, but based their conclusions on their faith, notable exceptions notwithstanding.

On the contrary, you said that the NT was written to make it look like OT prophecy was being fulfilled. That takes deliberate intent to deceive. It doesn't happen by accident.

Catholics don't want to see Protestantism thrashed.

Then they need to stop thrashing Protestantism and then we'll believe you.

They don't believe in God who hates, but who teaches them to love even their enemies, and to pray for them.

You mean like the Catholic church did during the Inquisition? Catholicism's history is rife with examples of an unloving attitude towards *outsiders*.

[kosta50]

On the contrary, you said that the NT was written to make it look like OT prophecy was being fulfilled. That takes deliberate intent to deceive. It doesn't happen by accident

If the authors of the NT believed what they wrote, they found the OT verses "prophetic" of Christ and used them. So, the intent was not necessarily to deceive, but to "prove". The desire was to show that Christ was indeed who they believed he was, so they used whatever they could find to support their conviction.

For instance, Jude quotes from the Book of Enoch, an apocryphal book, because he thought it contained truth about what Christians believed. So, obviously, the intent was not to deceive but to prove, even if their interpretation was not how other Jews understood their scripture

And don't give me "they were inspired" nonsense. Luke tells us it was he who did the work of investigating and compiling, and not the Holy Spirit, because he sure would have given God the credit if he believed he was "guided" by the Spirit.

1Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile an account of the things accomplished among us,
2just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word [sayings, gospel],
3it seemed fitting for me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in consecutive order [Luke 1:1-3]

Even the authors themselves had more humility and honesty than some zealots today. They did what they believed was true, so if they found "prophesies" in the OT it wasn't necessarily in order to deceive.

Then they need to stop thrashing Protestantism and then we'll believe you...You mean like the Catholic church did during the Inquisition? Catholicism's history is rife with examples of an unloving attitude towards *outsiders*.

How can they when this is all the Un-holy anti-Catholic Protestant Alliance is doing, as is clearly evident?

The Protestant did their part of "inquisitng" and burning of Catholics and Anabaptists, and anyone who disagreed with them, so your comment seems rather disingenuous.