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To: metmom
"From the guy who believes in soul sleep and denies the Catholic church teaching on the eternal torment of hell."

If you are going to quote me at least be accurate. I stated that I just didn't believe the fire and brimstone nonsense. I stated, and scripturally supported that there was no immortal soul for those who did not gain Salvation and that an eternity outside the presence and Love of Jesus was the greatest punishment. Only a moron would conclude that that denies the teachings of the Catholic Church.

4,536 posted on 12/03/2010 4:19:20 PM PST by Natural Law (AKA getoffmylawn)
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To: Natural Law

Well said.


4,537 posted on 12/03/2010 4:23:21 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Natural Law

Well god believes in fire and brimstone, and has used it in the past and says He will use it again. Even Peter said so:And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample to those that after should live ungodly;


4,542 posted on 12/03/2010 5:08:03 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law; Judith Anne

The RCC does not teach the annihilation of the soul. They following are excerpts from the Catechism of the Catholic Church at vatican.va.

The Catholic church clearly teaches the immortality of the soul and it’s eternal punishment in hell for dying in a state of sin.

If the soul ceased to be, there would be no eternal separation from God nor eternal torment. What is the threat for something that no longer exists. Nothingness can’t feel torment.

Every man his own pope, choosing what to believe and what not to believe.

YOPIOTCOTCC.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a12.htm#I

1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification592 or immediately,593—or immediate and everlasting damnation.594

1034 Jesus often speaks of “Gehenna” of “the unquenchable fire” reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost.612 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he “will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,”613 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: “Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!”614

1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, “eternal fire.”615 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.


4,557 posted on 12/03/2010 5:35:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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