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To: OLD REGGIE; metmom
Jesus did not "predict". He named him "Peter" then and there [in John 1:42]

John 1:42 says "thou shalt be called Cephas", future tense. However, I agree that possibly Jesus named Simon Peter as son as He met him, and in Matthew 16 He explains why. Now, is your argument that the name Peter was chosen without connection to the foundation of the Chruch that Christ said He will build in Matthew 16?

James "my judgment is..." presided and pronounced his judgment

Like I said, "Peter rose (Acts 15:7), spoke (vv 7-11), and all agreed (v 12). St. James as the presider, approved the letter (vv 19-20)." You seem to have forgotten what you are arguing about.

4,461 posted on 12/03/2010 4:41:39 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; OLD REGGIE
John 1:42 says "thou shalt be called Cephas", future tense.

Well, duh!!!!

Anything from that moment on was in the future.

4,481 posted on 12/03/2010 7:10:50 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex; metmom
Jesus did not "predict". He named him "Peter" then and there [in John 1:42]

John 1:42 says "thou shalt be called Cephas", future tense. However, I agree that possibly Jesus named Simon Peter as son as He met him, and in Matthew 16 He explains why. Now, is your argument that the name Peter was chosen without connection to the foundation of the Chruch that Christ said He will build in Matthew 16?

Yes.

James "my judgment is..." presided and pronounced his judgment

Like I said, "Peter rose (Acts 15:7), spoke (vv 7-11), and all agreed (v 12). St. James as the presider, approved the letter (vv 19-20)." You seem to have forgotten what you are arguing about.

I am not arguing, simply stating the fact that Peter was subordinate to James in this situation.

4,503 posted on 12/03/2010 11:28:10 AM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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