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To: MarkBsnr
The Faith is the Faith, regardless of departures of any individuals. Even the great Augustine departed from the Faith for a time. Some of the Church Doctors were condemned because they adopted non Christian beliefs. The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops. No matter, the Faith goes on.

Exactly,dear mark!

Non Catholics can never say "the faith is the faith" regardless of departures because there is no foundation of an forever changing faith that makes up their faith and departures is the core of protestant faith

4,062 posted on 12/01/2010 6:45:20 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
Non Catholics can never say "the faith is the faith" regardless of departures because there is no foundation of an forever changing faith that makes up their faith and departures is the core of protestant faith

Bingo. Luther's every milkmaid, who, under the Reformation, was given permission to create her own religion.

4,065 posted on 12/01/2010 6:58:17 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: stfassisi; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Non Catholics can never say "the faith is the faith" regardless of departures because there is no foundation of an forever changing faith that makes up their faith and departures is the core of protestant faith

Not so, because the foundational element is the belief in salvation through faith in Christ alone.

Protestants on these threads HAVE said that, that we have the unity in Christ in spite of the doctrinal differences in disputable matters. (Romans 14)

As a matter of fact, that's the very thing that Catholics condemn Protestantism for, the departures in areas of doctrine not essential for salvation.

It's a lose/lose situation for Protestants. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

Catholics keep telling us that Catholic doctrine is stable and unchanging. Where do these departures come in then? Are they there or are they not?

4,078 posted on 12/01/2010 7:26:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: stfassisi; metmom
Non Catholics can never say "the faith is the faith" regardless of departures because there is no foundation of an forever changing faith that makes up their faith and departures is the core of protestant faith

Certainly they can. Protestants do not encumber their faith with endless, meaningless rituals and blasphemous superstitions and heretical adoration of earthly creatures.

Protestants' faith is simple and found on every page of Scripture -- believe in Jesus Christ as Lord, God and Savior and be saved.

Jesus said that believing in Him was so simple a child could do it.

Yet Rome says Jesus was wrong.

"Be not afraid; only believe." - Mark 5:36

Rome is wrong.

4,165 posted on 12/01/2010 11:03:01 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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