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To: MarkBsnr; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
John 3:16-18 16"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

I believe, both in God and God.

Ephesians 1:3-14 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9 making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

11In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

Jesus declared that Judgment ahead of time.

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

True believers are in possession of eternal life NOW in the spiritual level. Their body just needs to catch up.

3,828 posted on 11/30/2010 8:01:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
I believe, both in God and God.

That is avoiding what you posted previously.

11In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

The guarantee of our inheritance is on God's side, not ours. We can walk away. The seal is simply the mark - the wax imprint of the ruler's seal. We can break it and refuse it. None of these are a guarantee of salvation; they are only a guarantee of God's promise to us of our inheritance. Read Matthew 25 instead of Ephesians for greater clarity.

Jesus declared that Judgment ahead of time.

That is not Judgement - why is it that you Bahble Believers (t) simply don't get it correct? It is God's promise ot the guarantee of our inheritance. It is up to us to accept or reject. Paul, btw agrees with that.

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

You might wish to go to the Greek to find out what this passage truly means. It does not mean guaranteed salvation. You fail again.

True believers are in possession of eternal life NOW in the spiritual level. Their body just needs to catch up.

Fail. Scripture does not support this claim.

3,836 posted on 11/30/2010 8:13:42 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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