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To: Dr. Eckleburg
They will never be able to say what the good news of the Gospel is, it's the Great Catholic Catch 22. To be able to say what it is, they would have to go beyond Matt, Mark, Luke & John. BUT they are arguing now that Paul was not even an Apostle. He is clearly the Apostle to the Gentiles. But they don't believe they are the Gentiles. They believe they are spiritual Israel. So Paul is out. And they go from John to James. And they are left with faith without works is dead. They begin with the Kingdom Message and they end with the Kingdom Message. The Gospel of the Grace of God is completely overlooked and ignored.... Because they aren't gentiles...

He shall have them in derision.

373 posted on 11/02/2010 8:02:00 PM PDT by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: smvoice; Dr. Eckleburg
They will never be able to say what the good news of the Gospel is, it's the Great Catholic Catch 22. To be able to say what it is, they would have to go beyond Matt, Mark, Luke & John. BUT they are arguing now that Paul was not even an Apostle.

Ah, ah, ah. Two things. If you surpass Jesus, then you are not Christian. The Gospel IS Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Paul and the Apostles do not surpass Jesus. Neither do any true believers. There is no Catholic that says that Paul is not an Apostle. Not one. I challenge you to produce one who does, or better still, anywhere in the Catechism which says otherwise.

He is clearly the Apostle to the Gentiles. But they don't believe they are the Gentiles. They believe they are spiritual Israel.

Again, wrong. Who says that Catholics are spiritual Israel? Nowhere does Catholicism say that. Wrong. Where are you getting your characterizations of Catholics from? Ian Paisley?

So Paul is out.

Paul is not out. He, along with Peter are the two greatest Apostles in Christendom. Are you attempting to set the record for wrong about Catholicism?

And they go from John to James. And they are left with faith without works is dead. They begin with the Kingdom Message and they end with the Kingdom Message. The Gospel of the Grace of God is completely overlooked and ignored....

Completely wrong once again. I see that a tour through the Catechism might disabuse you from your comic book portrayal of Catholicism - and true Christianity.

Because they aren't gentiles...

Untrue charges upon untrue charges. Young lady, wherever do you get these things from? You have managed to challenge the good Dr. E. for untruths about Catholicism in a single post. Quite a feat. Dr. E., how do you respond? Would you like me to referee an anti Catholic spew-off?

426 posted on 11/03/2010 1:37:35 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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