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To: count-your-change
So accordingly, the agnostic/atheist will tell us that Adam and Eve were victims, not of a rebel Satan, but of God who made them to fail and condemns them after sticking a foot out to trip them. They have not so much disbelief or questions about God as contempt for Him.

And they're lauded as some kind of hero or genius....

What a pathetic state someone's faith must be in for that to be a step up.

3,676 posted on 11/30/2010 6:24:01 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Recall that Satan first posed as an agnostic in the garden, asking,
“Is it really so that God has said you must not eat from every tree of the garden?”.

How cruel and unjust of Him!!!

Eve refutes Satan’s assertion but it doesn’t matter since he knew better anyway. It provides an opportunity to call God a liar,
“You positively WILL NOT die”. And Satan adds that God is selfishly keeping the really good stuff for Himself...a supposed mystery revealed!

By Job’s day the slander included all of humankind, they only serve God for what they are promised later. sounds familiar. Satan says God isn’t lovable unto Himself, He has to buy devotion, take away the goodies and they’ll leave.

That refuted, Satan becomes more insulting and accusative,

“Skin on behalf of skin”, Satan waxes poetic...make him hurt a little bit and he’ll curse you to your face. “YOU make Job suffer” and thus arbitrarily give and take.

There are a few that claim it was Satan getting the bad rap all through history when he really wasn’t all that bad.

I’m always reminded of the character O’Brien who tortures Winston in Orwell’s 1984. Winston at some point says that talking to O’Brien is like arguing with someone who may be more intelligent than you but is also completely insane.


3,689 posted on 11/30/2010 7:56:15 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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