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To: MarkBsnr
The wrath here is an afterthought

LOLOL. "The wrath of the Lord" per the RCC catechism, is "an afterthought?"

LOL. Yeah, right. Along those same lines according to Rome, Scripture is "an afterthought."

The whole WCF up until now has told us that the reprobate cannot avoid sin and cannot be saved.

Look up the definition of the word "reprobate," Mark. It will help prevent further errors on your part. Do you think "the reprobate" can avoid sin and be saved?

Just what is your definition of "reprobate?"

3,531 posted on 11/28/2010 9:58:03 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Look up the definition of the word "reprobate," Mark. It will help prevent further errors on your part. Do you think "the reprobate" can avoid sin and be saved?

Let's look up what the Bible has to say about 'reprobate'. Now, the King James, and rather error filled version, has three references to 'reprobate'. Let us see what they are:

Romans 1:19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Here, the reprobate are the ones who know God, but reject Him in favour of their own lusts. With that, God washes His hands of them. Exactly the opposite of Reformed thought, in which God creates people to be reprobate. Paul pitches strike one against the Reformed belief.

2 Timothy 3: 1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.

Reprobate concerning the faith, choosing to resist the truth of God. Hardly the reprobate of Reformed fame, created before time began. Paul pitches strike two to the Reformed.

Titus 1: 13This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; 14Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. 15Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. 16They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

They are of every works reprobate; rebuke them so that they may become sound in the faith. The very opposite of Reformed theology. Paul pitches strike 3: the Reformed side is out.

Notice that Jesus says nothing of the reprobate - only Paul, and in an entirely different form and meaning than the Reformed believe. Not only is there no Christ in your Christianity, there is only a wrong understanding of Paul. Thank you for once again proving we Christians' points for us.

3,751 posted on 11/30/2010 4:51:30 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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