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To: goat granny; 1000 silverlings; editor-surveyor; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; ...
You use the term liar, I just said he took that label himself and it was not what Christ's word for him was.

If he was not called to be an apostle by Christ it was a LIE..one who lies is a LIAR

But even Peter put forth what makes an apostle when lots were thrown and Matthias took Judas place as an apostle..Paul did not meet even Peter's criteria of what it takes to be an apostle...

Yea pick a successor by gambling..thats the ticket..

Can you show me in scripture where Jesus gave any of the apostles the authority or the right to usurp HIS authority and pass on the gifts given to the apostles He selected? Hint..He never did

..They had no right to select a replacement for Judas. Christ knew that Judas would betray Him ..He knew Judas would kill himself..SOOOOOOO IF Jesus wanted THEM to select a man to be the replacement for Judas, He would have told them that and how to do it..

I think the fact that we never hear of Matthias again in the NT speaks volumes . Whereas the man selected BY CHRIST is the primary catechist of the new church and a primary author of the NT

Peter, James and John considered Paul an apostle,Acts calls him an apostle and Peter called Pauls epistles scripture ...but you must have information that the apostles did not huh?

346 posted on 11/02/2010 3:44:35 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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To: bkaycee

Oppps left you off bump

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347 posted on 11/02/2010 3:47:38 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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350 posted on 11/02/2010 3:56:11 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: RnMomof7
Can you show me in scripture where Jesus gave any of the apostles the authority or the right to usurp HIS authority and pass on the gifts given to the apostles He selected? Hint..He never did

..They had no right to select a replacement for Judas. Christ knew that Judas would betray Him ..He knew Judas would kill himself..SOOOOOOO IF Jesus wanted THEM to select a man to be the replacement for Judas, He would have told them that and how to do it..

I think the fact that we never hear of Matthias again in the NT speaks volumes . Whereas the man selected BY CHRIST is the primary catechist of the new church and a primary author of the NT

I never thought of it in those terms before. Thanks for that Scriptural understanding.

Peter, James and John considered Paul an apostle, Acts calls him an apostle and Peter called Paul's epistles scripture ...

AMEN!

351 posted on 11/02/2010 4:00:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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